Well said. I do appreciate the the volunteers that make the society a success. As for the complainers I do not see them step up and volunteer for a position. But that is the world we live in TODAY SAD Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2023, at 12:37 AM, Shmuel Silinsky via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > My two cents: > I am not currently a member of PBS, though I have been in the past. I have > donated to the SBC even though I have never asked anything from it. The > point is that PBS, especially from my point of view, is an incredibly > valuable resource. The website / Wiki are amazing and extremely useful. I > have seen other plant oriented groups, in particular one dealing with > succulents, that devolved into pointless arguments and offensive comments > back and forth until the site was ultimately destroyed. I dearly do not > want that to happen here so please, as an outsider, I hope everyone takes > all comments as helpful suggestions and not personal attacks. May the love > of geophytes be the ruling motives and may PBS continue to be a wonderful > organization into the future. > >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2023, 3:50 PM Mike via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> Forming a nominating committee. Really in 2023. >> >> I frankly find it elitist and condescending. Also haven’t we had enough of >> this back room politics ? No we need transparency., >> >> I have a much better idea to discuss. Janes committee should be focused on >> building coherent job descriptions for each position. Typical duties and >> responsibilities. The most important thing would be an annual review to >> goals. >> >> Imagine understanding what the job was knowing how the job was going to be >> measured and then deciding if you want to participate what a novel idea >> >> We have languished for 4 years in a limbo of ineffective governance why? >> Because we still use a system designed to allow the original founders to >> stay as long as they wanted and leave when they got bored. >> >> I will provide just one example of how poorly we are doing and have done. >> >> Let’s agree that the BX and SX have the role of generating income for the >> group in fact should be the number one income generator. This is fact >> >> What is the percent of members who have made one donation to the BX/SX in >> the last two years ? I can assure you its way below 1/2. >> >> So this is our life blood and yet, I rarely if ever hear anyone on the Exec >> board other then the two hardest working people in PBS. Jan and Bridget. >> They are not discussing it in the same way an executive should. This has >> been one of the biggest blunders allowed to fester in PBS. Our primary >> executive should have been the BX/SX biggest cheerleader period. Reminding >> all what it does and encouraging everyone to participate. This never >> happened. >> Let’s go further down this rabbit hole. We have a few big hitters that >> easily donate over half the products sold at our events….What has our >> executive done that is immune to the will of the membership, only beholden >> to a few who are also either out of touch, new or want to be president? >> Not a very good group to govern and manage an executive is it. I have seem >> some of these big fish actuallly antagonized by our executive team. >> >> What if they pack up and donate their time and amazing bulbs to other >> groups….maybe its already happened? >> >> These are the members our next President should be close with. I hope our >> next president makes it very clear we are all bound by the honorable common >> sense rule to share..meaning provide and take. >> >> What should we do? The folks that donate. All of us should be noted in the >> winter bulb garden in a Growers. Circle. >> >> The big hitters meaning the top 5 donors in each of the SX and BX should go >> into the President Citcle. >> >> Isn’t that a simple and cost effective way to help solve a huge problem? >> >> It’s time for the whole executive structure to be scrapped. >> >> >> >> All of the members I’m acquainted with are very smart and busy people. I >> have a feeling that if they could see job descriptions. They are all mature >> enough to decide if they want to throw their hat in the ring. >> >> In fact in 2023, we need an executive comfortable with social media…so that >> person will chose to participate on their own. We don’t need or want a >> person who, own their accord is not aware they have the calling to >> volunteer . >> >> >> The nominating committee model is outdated smacks of cronyism and has no >> place in the mgt of a bulb group in 2023. >> >> I expect a lively discussion, you should all be outraged that the group is >> run this way. >> >> One last thought we have never had a shortage of volunteers we have had a >> shortage of people willing to work under a bullying manager , as a good use >> of their free time >> >> >> >> Respectfully >> >> >> Michael Lowitz >> >> San Diego >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum latest: >> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…