BX possibilities (was Re: Bulbs)

Albert Stella amstella1017@gmail.com
Tue, 03 Oct 2017 09:17:29 PDT
Hello fellow bulbophiles,

I am relatively new to this society but a major selling point was the BX and SX offerings. I don't know of any other organizations or societies with such a wonderfully managed member-sharing program. I'd be happy to take over and keep this program alive. Or at the very least help in any way I can. 

Make it a great one!
-Albert

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> On Oct 3, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Cody H <plantboy@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Regarding the BX, thank you Dell for all the time and effort you put into
> it. I love receiving those little packages and I consider the BX to be a
> major asset to this society. We should figure out a way to keep it alive
> and thriving.
> 
> If nobody is interested and/or able to take over Dell’s work in its
> entirety, another option might be to distribute the process. It seems like
> the basic BX procedure is this (Dell, please add detail or corrections if
> this description is lacking):
> 
> - - - -
> 
> 1. Receive bulb/seed donations from members on an ongoing basis.
> 
> 2. When a critical mass of bulb/seed donations have been received, make a
> list of the available donations and send it to the group as a BX offering.
> 
> 3. Collect member responses to the BX offering.
> 
> 4. Divide the bulbs/seeds from each donation among the members interested
> (bag and number each divided member-share appropriately).
> 
> 5. Package up each member’s set of divided shares and mail the packages.
> 
> - - - -
> 
> It seems to me that distributing this work among two or more members could
> be done in a number of different way, e.g.
> 
> Volunteer A: steps 1,2 (coordinator)
> Volunteer B: steps 3,4,5 (divider/packager)
> 
> Volunteer A: 1,2,3 (coordinator)
> Volunteer B: 4,5 (divider/packager)
> 
> Volunteer A: 1,2 (coordinator)
> Volunteer B: 3,4 (divider)
> Volunteer C: 5 (packager)
> 
> ...there are obviously many more ways as well.
> 
> Some additional considerations:
> 
> If there were enough volunteers, it could make sense to have some steps
> performed in parallel by multiple volunteers at once (e.g. dividing and
> packing shares for shipment) or setting up rotations to alleviate the
> constant pressure.
> 
> If we had geographically clustered volunteers, time and money could be
> saved by people meeting in person to divide/package shares.
> 
> Going a little further out on the limb, if we had geographically-clustered
> *sets* of volunteers (e.g. Portland area, Bay Area, etc.), we could even
> consider having some kind of rotation set up where a given crew could meet
> in person to divide and package up the shares for some interval of time.
> But that is probably best viewed as a future “aspirational” goal rather
> than a starting point.
> 
> Of course the drawback of this kind of system is the overhead associated
> with coordination and the additional costs associated with mailing more
> packages if the volunteers are distant enough geographically that meeting
> in person doesn’t make sense. But if there are only a few volunteers
> working at a time, the costs and overhead should be fairly low.
> 
> For what it’s worth, I can’t commit to taking over the entire BX alone, but
> I’m certainly willing to participate in a system like what I’ve described
> here. And I live in the Seattle area.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:38 PM Jo&Greg <sun-coast-pearl@telus.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dell-
>> If you need help, there might be a seed savers group in your area. The
>> folks in our area are amazing ... they clean, sort and package soooo fast!
>> Many sees savers groups deal with all types of seeds, not only veggies.
>> Just an idea.
>> Jo-Ann Canning
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of
>> ds429
>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:01 PM
>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs
>> 
>> Thanks again, Kipp. How about a robot who could sort and package bulbs and
>> shortlived seeds and then fill orders and prepare the parcels for shipping.
>> Those are the real time consumers for me.
>> 
>> Dell
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/1/17, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs
>> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 3:41 PM
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 
>>   I've previously offered
>> to help in updating the tech side of the BX - but I think  Dell, already
>> at the limit of his capacity for this  enormous, ongoing effort, preferred
>> to keep things as they  are. Here are a few ideas:
>> 
>> 
>>   1) I presume Dell keeps an
>> inventory document (such a spreadsheet). We could use this  document to
>> populate an online ordering page where, rather  than sending emails to
>> place orders, people could instead  place their orders online. That system
>> could track inventory  and automatically remove items that were spoken-for.
>> 
>> 
>>   2) The
>> online ordering system would intake shipping address info  and, with
>> paypal support, could also process payments. In  such a system, orders
>> would not go-out until they had been  paid. This would eliminate the need
>> for Dell (or another) to  track outstanding balances and copy/paste
>> shipping info from  emails. Likewise, non-PBS-members would not be able to
>> submit orders at all.
>> 
>> 
>>   3) When completing an order, the ordering  website could also provide
>> the shipping info as a printable  address label.
>> 
>> 
>> As outlined above, I think this system could  reduce the work of
>> supporting the BX/SX.
>> 
>>   *   Those who ordered would be responsible  for supplying their
>> correct, current shipping address.
>>   *   Payment through the ordering website  would eliminate the need to
>> manage unpaid balances  separately.
>>   *   Member verification at
>> ordering would eliminate the need to track membership  status.
>>   *   Inventory would update
>> automatically as orders were made. Adding new  donations/offerings would
>> still require manual work -but  these would then appear automatically
>> without the need to  draft new emails.
>>   *   Ordering through
>> the site could be turned on and off as needed (or we could  move to a
>> continuous offering system)
>> 
>> There would still be *plenty* of work left to  do even with an ordering
>> website. But that work would be the  unavoidable stuff like packing seeds
>> in envelopes and, when  new donations arrive, deciding how many "lots"
>> of  given offering will be added to the website.
>> 
>> I would be happy to help
>> engineer a system like this.
>> 
>> -|<ipp
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
>> on behalf of Jack and Val <vkmyrick@pacbell.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:51 AM
>> To: Pacific Bulb Society
>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs
>> 
>> Dell, Robin and All,
>> 
>> Dell does a very efficient and prompt job as  far as I can tell from the
>> receiving end.  He lets me know  that my order has been received, for
>> example.  That puts  my mind at ease each time.  Then the order is
>> received about a week later.  I figure Dell has made the  process as
>> streamlined as possible under his current  operating conditions.
>> The only thing I could
>> guess that could be done to help is to have different  responsible
>> parties do the seeds and bulbs.  Dell may  already be doing that.  Dell,
>> are your helpers also  PBS members?  I think I’m the only one in my  area
>> but am not sure.
>> 
>> Thanks to Dell and all of you who make the PBS  such a great
>> organization.  You all put so much time and  dedication into this group.
>> 
>> Val
>> Sonora, CA , N. CA near
>> Yosemite
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Hansen Nursery  <robin@hansennursery.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dell,
>>> 
>>> On just one BX you
>> send out 150 shares?  And SXs are bigger than that?  What  an incredible
>> job!  And I think you do this on average once  a week year-round.  You've
>> also been doing this for 14  years or more, if I'm correct?  You have a
>> right to  retire or step back.  PBS Folks, I think it's time Dell  had some
>> more and reliable help or at least allow him to  retire....
>>> 
>>> May I
>> put forth a request for ideas on how to streamline this  process to make
>> it less onerous?  I'm sure this has  been brought up for discussion before,
>> and it's time to  get serious about this situation.  Dell has done this
>> without pay as an incredibly generous donation of time and  probably money,
>> too for a very long time.  Please, folks,  step forward and offer ideas,
>> help or whatever you can.  We  owe this to Dell in particular but to all
>> volunteers who  keep this organization running.
>>> 
>>> My best regards,
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> Hansen
>> Nursery
>>> robin@hansennursery.com
>>> 
>>> 
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