Yes, Yes, Yes! I don't have any kitty's either and I do have many rodents, Pocket Gophers, Voles, Deer Mice, etc. along with Gopher snakes for sure, have seen a King snake cruising around my garden on occasion and a Short-tailed Weasel seen a couple years ago. I noticed a Gopher snake just yesterday just outside a rodent hole near the barn and thought, YES! Doing it's job! I have bulbs that are susceptible to rodent damage planted in cages and have had some success inter-planting bulbs that are susceptible to rodent damage amongst bulbs which aren't in an effort to deceive the rodents! I love my reptiles in the garden and believe it is a very efficient way to help me control my rodent populations. I once told my friend that I don’t believe the rodent population was ever this bad before I moved here and he told me that if he were a rodent he would love to live in my garden too! Joey Russell zone 5 Pacific Northwest, high plains desert! USA -----Original Message----- From: Leo Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:48 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Snakes was Voles Native snakes tend to be much more effective rodent predators than introduced cats. Snakes can crawl into rodent burrows. Cats also kill off the snakes, as well as native birds. It takes quite a while for snake populations to recover after cats are removed. My desert neighborhood is, sadly, a dumping ground for unwanted cats and kittens. Most don't last long among the coyotes. A few survive for several months, and kill off the king snakes. Rodent populations are higher here when cats are present, and for a few years afterwards, until snake populations recover. Leo Martin Zone ? Phoenix Arizona USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…