About the stratification of Alstroemeria seeds, I think you need to investigate where the species grows in the first place, some Alstroemeria grow in the highlands or mountains in the Andes, temperature there drops below 5 degrees C (or 41 F), this is when you have to put them in the fridge to emulate climate conditions. On the other hand, some Alstroemerias grow in the coast like Alstroemeria lineatiflora, I live in Lima, temperature here does not drop more than 13 degrees C (or 55.4 degrees F) in the winter ( that´s the time when they grow ) so you do not need to put them in the fridge or make an stratification process for the seeds, only the seed coat removal would be enough, I think. I have to add no wonder the seeds got cooked in 86 degrees F since we dont get those temperatures, even in the summer its very rare, temperatures like that get registered only in the north of Peru closer to Equator, and Alstroemeria are not reported to grow there. If you sow them in moist soil, do not place the pot in the sun, since they grow under rocks they dont need light anyway, Im only speaking from my experience with A. lineatiflora. I have to say that I was succesful in germination last year, I only obtained one seedling to germinate after three and a half months, when I already had given up in month number 2 and removed most of the seeds with the pot in complete shade, so the seedling was very weak and I did not attempt to transplant. I normally grow Ismene, Stenomesson and a lot of cactus species, they normally germinate within a week so I get impatient with species that don´t, Im kinda glad that I´m being taught to be patient by nature. Hope that helps someone out there On the other hand , if anyone knows a good tutorial of rhizome transplant of Bomarea or Alstroemeria ? Please let me know. Norton ________________________________ From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Cody H <plantboy@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:58 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Tricks to germinate Alstroemeriaceae family I recently tried to germinate A. pelegrina using the directions from Jelitto, starting with the suggested 86F for three weeks, and all my seeds turned to mush. Next time I will try Jane's method. On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:35 AM Pamela Harlow <pamela@polson.com> wrote: > Jelitto Seed offers the following sowing advice for Alstroemeria: "For > Alstroemeria we recommend to keep [the] sowing for 3 weeks at approximately > +30 degrees C [86 degrees F], then 3 weeks at +5 degrees C [41 degrees F], > then at +21 degrees C [70 degrees F]. > > Jelitto does not offer any obscure species. They offer the following: A. > aurantiaca, A. hookeri, A. psittacina, and several hybrids. Their sowing > directions are intended for the varieties they offer, but perhaps they will > help germinate other members of the genus. > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > I have grown a number of Alstroemeria species from Chile, both from my > own > > seed collections and from the company Chileflora. I find that they > > germinate best when kept at room temperature until autumn (late September > > where I live) and then sown in cool, moist conditions. My seed mix is > equal > > parts peat, ground pumice, and coarse sand. I keep growing them in the > seed > > pot until they become dormant in summer and them move them on to > individual > > larger pots, where they can grow for another year or two. They can then > be > > planted in the rock garden (if hardy to 20 F/minus 6 C) or kept in large > > pots that are protected from frost in winter (for coastal species). If > you > > keep them in big pots, be sure the tuberous roots do not plug the drain > > holes. > > > > Jane McGary > > > > Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > > > On 2/25/2017 10:23 PM, norton cuba melly wrote: > > > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> Thanks for all your responses, every bit of information helps, I will > >> post my results further along the way. > >> > >> I offer now a new topic: How to grow plants from the Alstroemeriaceae > >> family > >> > >> > >> This species, both grow in lomas ecosystem in the coast of Lima - Peru > >> and scattered in higher areas. > >> > >> * Alstroemeria lineatiflora: This plant grows under the rocks, they > >> have a dry seed coat and flower in october- november. I tried to > germinate > >> the seeds by removing the seed coat and sowing them in moist premix > soil. > >> But after a month I saw the seeds disintegrate, dont know if its to hot > >> (because I did it in the summer), the soil is too moist or maybe I > should > >> not remove the seed coat since it removes itself anyway. I read > information > >> about it, and it says they germinate after 6 - 12 weeks. The area where > >> they grow is starting to get attention of farmers that grow Pine, > >> Eucalyptus, Casuarina, Pomegranate, Cypress, Geranium,etc. (Yep right > there > >> in the middle of a desertic area that gets 6 months of dry season) so > maybe > >> it would be good idea to transplant some of them inside the area that is > >> sort of protected by an association that is doing an ecotouristic > circuit > >> there https://goo.gl/n2eP56/ > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Pacific Bulb Society | List<http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php> pacificbulbsociety.org The PBS List is an email discussion of bulbs, sponsored by the Pacific Bulb Society, for people around the world. 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