I commend the PBS and David Pilling for their efforts to assist people to better manage their seed collection and preparation habits. We have videos from Jonna Sudenius on seed collecting shared on the main SRGC seed exchange area of the website. As the person who is usually the first port of call for SRGC members at seed exchange time, I would say that impatience and rudeness can sometimes be very distressing to the volunteers doing their best to serve their fellow members. The SRGC "rates" the quality of seed donations so that anyone trying to improve their chance of getting higher up the distribution process by submitting weedy species or dirty seed will find themselves unsuccessful in that aim. We have our forum where anyone can report problems with seed ID etc, of course. I have already posted about a seed germination reporting system that was prepared and shared with SRGC by Erik Fleischer - I commend it to you, too - all submissions are welcome ( http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13727.0 ) There is also a section for photographs of germinating seedlings - which can be of use to those wondering if they are growing the "correct" plant : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6490.0 For some time now there has been a section of the Scottish Rock Garden Club forum where registered forumists can post photos of seed they know to be correctly named in order to build a resource to help with ID of seed for all. The system is searchable and now contains nearly 900 entries. David Pilling has been one of the contributors! You can see the thread here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4426.0 Of course, all these initiatives are only useful if people take the time and effort to get involved and help out by submitting there information, pictures or whatever - your assistance is welcomed! Maggi Young