Seeds germinating, second year bulbs (happiness)

Mike Rummerfield mikerumm@gmail.com
Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:58:07 PST
Dell,
Here's a link to Clivia mirabilis.  It is the most recently "discovered' of
the Clivia species (and takes a long time to bloom.)
http://plantzafrica.com/plantcd/…

Regards,
Mike

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Dell Sherk <ds429@frontier.com> wrote:

> Is “mirabilis” a clivia species?
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: Fred Biasella
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:14 PM
> To: 'Dell Sherk'
> Subject: RE: [pbs] Seeds germinating, second year bulbs (happiness)
>
> They are Clivia miniata x mirabilis.
>
> From: Dell Sherk [mailto:ds429@frontier.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:44 PM
> To: Fred Biasella <arlen.jose@verizon.net>; 'Pacific Bulb Society' <
> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: RE: [pbs] Seeds germinating, second year bulbs (happiness)
>
> Fred,
>
> What are “mirabilis crosses”?
>
> Dell
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: Fred Biasella
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:11 PM
> To: 'Pacific Bulb Society'
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Seeds germinating, second year bulbs (happiness)
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Unfortunately, I have been bitten by the clivia bug and have about 50 pots
> of varying sizes and ages and absolutely no more room!!!!! The oldest one
> (that hasn't flowered) was sown in 2004 and it's growing at a snail's pace.
> The ones I'm very anxious to see flower are the mirabilis crosses I made
> about 5 years ago. Like you said, patience is a virtue but let me tell you,
> having to lug these very large and heavy clivia indoors every fall is
> taking a toll on my aching back.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Fred Biasella
> Cambridge (Boston) MA
> USDA Zone 6b
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Rummerfield
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:21 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Seeds germinating, second year bulbs (happiness)
>
> Fred,
> You are a patient man.  Congratulations on the first bloom of your Clivia!
> I also raise Clivia from seed (and do some breeding) and always question
> my sanity as I sow the seed as it usually takes 4 to 6 years to bloom,
> sometimes less, sometimes more.  At my age I may never see them bloom, but
> it still provides the pleasure of seeing them germinate; sending up their
> first stout leaf (checking for basal pigmentation); and the compulsive, but
> pleasure inducing, monitoring of their progress - leaf shape, color, and
> arrangement; and then the constant counting of the number of leaves.  (For
> those not stricken with Clivia Fever, each plant must put on 12 to 14
> leaves before there's any hope of first bloom.)  And then after years of
> the tease ( a little giddy toward possible bloom- This year? oh please, oh
> please) it's - OH JOY! OH JOY!
>
> Regards,
> Mike
> Hazy sun and 43℉ today in the Pacific Northwest, US
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Fred Biasella <arlen.jose@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Travis,
> >
> > CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! Isn't it such a wonderful feeling when you grow
> > something from seed and it flowers? I share your enthusiasm because I
> > have some clivia flowering for the first time (seed sown in 2008) and
> > it does give you a great sense of accomplishment!!!
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Travis O
> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:02 PM
> > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: [pbs] Seeds germinating, second year bulbs (happiness)
> >
> > All,
> >
> > This is a very exciting time of year for me, because it is the time
> > many of my seed pots start to show signs of growth. Seeing something
> > I've sown germinate for the first time is almost better than the
> > flowers they produce (because it means I didn't kill them!)
> >
> > Iris chrysophylla is germinating en masse, although I was told some
> > time ago by an "expert" that germ rates were low. I have near 100%
> > germ! It was surface sown and left outside under an old window to
> > prevent mechanical damage from rain (as happened last year).
> >
> > Erythronium oregonum is the first of the fawn lilies to break the seed
> > coat, with hendersonii close behind. The latter is native here, so I
> > should expect good germ there. Both sown as the Iris above.
> >
> > Pseudomuscari azureum and Dichelostemma capitatum are both
> > germinating, too.
> > Neither is particularly showy unless mass planted, but I like them
> anyway.
> > Seed of both surface sown and left out.
> >
> > Narcissus seed collected from my own bulbs are germinating, my attempt
> > to raise a strain that is best adapted to my garden. Second year
> > seedling bulbs are also appearing. Seed was sown 1/2" deep and left
> > out.
> >
> > Other second year bulbs are coming up in pots. Chlorogalum from seed
> > collected in the area two years ago are appearing like clockwork, the
> > wild plants that created the seed are likewise breaking the soil surface.
> >
> > Also, arguably not a bulb in any way,  a native Delphinium (probably D.
> > nuttallianum) is showing up again. It is in it's second year of
> > growth, the first years' appearance was so brief I thought I killed
> > them. The leaves are tiny compared to the mature plants, yet they have
> > the characteristically palmate divided leaves.
> >
> > I am growing a variety of questionably hardy seeds under lights on my
> > covered porch. These tend to be species which don't require a cold
> > period and germinated over a month ago. These include Toxicoscordion
> > fremontii, a few Alliums, Arisaema heterophyllum, Crocus goulimyi, and
> > a few others I'm forgetting. Barnardia japonica seed sown last Autumn
> > still shows no signs of growth, so I requested bulbs from the recent
> > BX anyway. Hopefully the seeds will germinate and I'll get a dozen
> > bulbs to play with.
> >
> > Question: My Arisaema heterophyllum is dying back now, is this typical?
> > Should I let the pot dry out a bit?
> >
> > (Completely unrelated to bulbs, but somewhat comparable to
> > germination, our due date for the birth of our second daughter is in
> > the beginning of March, which obviously dwarfs anything to do with
> > anything else anywhere! It's going to be epic, just wanted to share
> > that!)
> >
> > Anyone else have seed successes/failures to share?
> >
> > Travis Owen
> > Rogue River, OR
> >
> > http://www.amateuranthecologist.com/
> > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/
> >
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