@ Nick - I'd like to try Rhodophiala bifida. From reading past PBS list messages about Rhodophiala bifida it seems to like year-round moisture and full sun. It might just survive in my garden! I'd like to get more Amaryllidaceae in my garden, as the plants seem to be ignored by above and below ground herbivores (deer, voles). I mentioned before, Hymenocallis 'Festalis' overwintered successfully (supposed to be hardy to z8) but didn't flower, perhaps it will this year. In the beginning of 2015, I bought a bulb of Lycoris squamigera, which produced no leaves or anything last year. I assumed it had rotted away. This year, it has produced a beautiful fan of leaves so far! Hopefully it will flower... As for my single Hippaestrum 'Red Lion' bulb, I'm going to try my luck and plant it by the Hymenocallis. Who knows, maybe it will surprise us all. Travis Owen Rogue River, OR http://www.amateuranthecologist.com/ http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/