Rimmer wrote: >is it not true when a bulb plant goes dormant or an old leaf is naturally withering, the leaves naturally turn yellow and brown from the leaf tip and progress to the stem? That's a really good question, and I'm interested to know what other list members think. I've definitely had times when I thought a bulb had died and actually it had just gone dormant (and the opposite, where I thought it was dormant but actually it had died). But in general, I think the appearance of a bulb leaf going dormant is subtly different from one that's dying back from the tip due to stress. Usually when a bulb's going dormant, the leaf goes yellowish through its length. The tip may be the first part to completely die, but the whole length of the leaf looks like the plant is finishing up with it. On the other hand, a leaf that has tip dieback usually looks healthy and green for much of its length, and the tip is completely withered as if somebody had held a match to it. I'll try to take some photos to illustrate the difference. I'm sure it's not true in all cases, andth difference is subtle enough that it would be hard for a beginning grower to spot, but after growing these things for a while, I think it's pretty clear to me. Other folks lease speak up if you disagree. Mike San Jose, CA