You are talking about the USA, Tim and Carl, right? In Canada "entitled white male" is a dying breed and as such should be protected, around the GTA anyway. From an "entitled white female", if there is such a thing. By the way, there is a world of difference between entitled and untitled, I think. Just a thought. Please do not let it morph it into a long heated discussion which will cause some members drop their memberships. Bea --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com/