Item 8: germinating Worsleya

Chernoff, Ellen A. G. echernof@iupui.edu
Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:12:46 PST
Yes, using Bonsai akadama should  work.  Others have used it.
Ellen Chernoff

IUPUI-Department of Biology
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: IBS Gallery Fate (Nhu Nguyen)
   2. PBS, an incorporated entity (Nhu Nguyen)
   3. Re: Babiana rubrocyanea (spider mites?) (Leo Martin)
   4. Re: PBS, an incorporated entity (Kipp McMichael)
   5. Photo permission from Andrew Harvie sought (Jane McGary)
   6. Re: zigadenus elegans (Jane McGary)
   7. Re: zigadenus elegans (Nhu Nguyen)
   8. Bonsai Akadama for Worsleya germination? (Fernando Cecilio)
   9. R:  PBS, an incorporated entity (Alberto Grossi)
  10. Re: IBS Gallery Fate (Stephen Putman)
  11. Re: Bonsai Akadama for Worsleya germination? (steven hart)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:28:17 -0600
From: Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] IBS Gallery Fate
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Hi Jim,

When we first heard that the IBS was closing its doors, we had the same
concerns that the gallery of many photos will be gone along with the
society. Mike Mace made contact with the then president to ask what will
happen to the gallery. He said that he was going to try and keep the
gallery online and has local copies of it and will try to get it going. I
don't think we got very far with trying to get it hosted on PBS. The
important thing to remember is that apart from a few rare species of
amaryllids, our wiki has much better representation, newer photos, and
better resolution. Pursuing the old IBS gallery is not an effort that the
PBS Wiki team can afford at the moment due to various issues including
negotiations, copyright, and time.

If you ever need to look up anything from the IBS, I would suggest using
the Way Back Machine as suggested in the other post.

Best,
Nhu

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:45 AM, James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> wrote:

>         Has PBS given any thought to engulfing the IBS Gallery into the
> PBS web site?
>


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:12:31 -0600
From: Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] PBS, an incorporated entity
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Dear PBS members and supporters,

I am very pleased to announce that as of December 22, 2014, the Pacific
Bulb Society is an incorporated entity! The PBS is now a corporation and
has protection from law as any other corporate entities. It doesn't in any
way change our way of operation and we continue to provide educational
material and facilitate exchange of material for members.

This is all thanks to the hard work and leadership of our brave Vice
President John Wickham and Treasurer Arnold Trachtenberg, so please send
them thanks and gratitude for making this happen. Whereas we have been
trying to do this for years without success, John forged ahead and see it
through. It is a long and arduous process, starting with revamping our
by-laws which John also took charge with the help of Pam Slate. Then the
incorporation letters and forms had to be drafted and filed with the right
entities, followed with more forms and payments. Thank you so much, John,
Arnold, and Pam! John is now in the process of applying for non-profit
status and we hope to get it approved in the next few months.

After 12 years, the PBS being led by fearless leaders with forward visions
that kept us current technologies and the commitment to take care of our
members, our society is stronger than ever and continues to gain
acknowledgements, support, and membership world-wide. There are still many
things that we can improve upon, and we could not do it without your help.
Please donate in your extra bulb seeds and bulbs (most get gobbled up so
you don't have to worry that no one will want them). If you have an
article, like to write something, or see something that would be nice to
feature in our newsletter, please send them along. The wiki continues to be
the great source of accumulated bulb knowledge and we always need help.
Consider donating a bit of your time, images or text to the collective
fundamental tome of modern bulb growing.

Happy official birthday to the PBS and happy growing,

Nhu Nguyen
PBS President


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 08:53:07 -0800
From: Leo Martin <stnalpsoel@gmail.com>
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [pbs] Babiana rubrocyanea (spider mites?)
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Before mailing pesticides via the US Postal Service I suggest asking a USPS
clerk how to do this legally:
http://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c3_023.htm

Spraying undersides of leaves with plain water or isopropyl alcohol every 3
days for 3 applications is sufficient in most cases, and far less toxic
than miticides.

Leo Martin
Zone ?
Phoenix Arizona USA


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:28:00 -0800
From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS, an incorporated entity
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I am expecting a high valuation when we go public....
-|<ipp

> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:12:31 -0600
> From: xerantheum@gmail.com
> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [pbs] PBS, an incorporated entity
>
> Dear PBS members and supporters,
>
> I am very pleased to announce that as of December 22, 2014, the Pacific
> Bulb Society is an incorporated entity! The PBS is now a corporation and
> has protection from law as any other corporate entities. It doesn't in any
> way change our way of operation and we continue to provide educational
> material and facilitate exchange of material for members.
>
> This is all thanks to the hard work and leadership of our brave Vice
> President John Wickham and Treasurer Arnold Trachtenberg, so please send
> them thanks and gratitude for making this happen. Whereas we have been
> trying to do this for years without success, John forged ahead and see it
> through. It is a long and arduous process, starting with revamping our
> by-laws which John also took charge with the help of Pam Slate. Then the
> incorporation letters and forms had to be drafted and filed with the right
> entities, followed with more forms and payments. Thank you so much, John,
> Arnold, and Pam! John is now in the process of applying for non-profit
> status and we hope to get it approved in the next few months.
>
> After 12 years, the PBS being led by fearless leaders with forward visions
> that kept us current technologies and the commitment to take care of our
> members, our society is stronger than ever and continues to gain
> acknowledgements, support, and membership world-wide. There are still many
> things that we can improve upon, and we could not do it without your help.
> Please donate in your extra bulb seeds and bulbs (most get gobbled up so
> you don't have to worry that no one will want them). If you have an
> article, like to write something, or see something that would be nice to
> feature in our newsletter, please send them along. The wiki continues to be
> the great source of accumulated bulb knowledge and we always need help.
> Consider donating a bit of your time, images or text to the collective
> fundamental tome of modern bulb growing.
>
> Happy official birthday to the PBS and happy growing,
>
> Nhu Nguyen
> PBS President
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:34:21 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] Photo permission from Andrew Harvie sought
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The following inquiry came through our website. It is nice to see
someone polite enough to ask for permission to use wiki photos!

If you know how Udi Aeviv can contact Andrew Harvie, please write to
Udi at the address below or forward this message to Andrew Harvie.

>To: janemcgary@earthlink.net
>Subject: PBS website contact:///Babiana/ tubulosa photos
>Reply-To: udi aeviv <udiarviv@gmail.com>
>
>This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary.
>
>Hi , i\'m contacting you about Andrew Harvie photos ,
>i\'m a small seller selling online and i have some seeds from this plant ,
>is there anyway to get permission to use some of his photos?
>thanks ,
>udi.



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:56:11 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] zigadenus elegans
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Can I enter a vote to retain the page Zigadenus, please? I haven't
followed the name changes, but this genus is so familiar, at least to
Americans, that the apparent reversion to earlier names such as
Anticlea and Toxicoscordion will be very confusing. At the very
least, we should keep a "dummy" Zigadenus page (unless something is
still called that) directing people to the newly accepted synonyms.


Jane McGary
Portland, Oregon, USA


At 03:43 AM 2/2/2015, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On 02/02/2015 02:06, info@beautifulblooms.ab.ca wrote:
>>Has zigadenus elegans been changed as well, and if so to what?
>
>According to:
>
>http://theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/…
>
>Anticlea elegans
>
>There's no PBS wiki entry, if anyone has photos...



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:07:01 -0600
From: Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] zigadenus elegans
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Apparently, Zigadenus glaberrimus is still a Zigadenus according to the
Plant List.
http://theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search/…

When I learned a few years ago that Z. elegans occurs all over north
America, into Canada and Alaska, I was very surprised. This makes it one of
the few bulb species with the most northern distribution?

Nhu

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>  At the very least, we should keep a "dummy" Zigadenus page (unless
> something is still called that) directing people to the newly accepted
> synonyms.
>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:38:02 +0000
From: Fernando Cecilio <fcecilio58@gmail.com>
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [pbs] Bonsai Akadama for Worsleya germination?
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Hi Everybody!
I have read the piece on Worsleys germination in pure pumice, but it is not
sold here in Portugal.
Do you think bonsai akadama would work?
Thanks and regards
Fernando


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:44:34 +0100 (CET)
From: Alberto Grossi <crinum@libero.it>
To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] R:  PBS, an incorporated entity
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Many thanks to all of you for the efforts to improve the PBS!
Alberto



>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: xerantheum@gmail.com
>Data: 02/02/2015 17.12
>A: "Pacific Bulb Society"<pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Ogg: [pbs] PBS, an incorporated entity
>
>Dear PBS members and supporters,
>
>I am very pleased to announce that as of December 22, 2014, the Pacific
>Bulb Society is an incorporated entity! The PBS is now a corporation and
>has protection from law as any other corporate entities. It doesn't in any
>way change our way of operation and we continue to provide educational
>material and facilitate exchange of material for members.
>
>This is all thanks to the hard work and leadership of our brave Vice
>President John Wickham and Treasurer Arnold Trachtenberg, so please send
>them thanks and gratitude for making this happen. Whereas we have been
>trying to do this for years without success, John forged ahead and see it
>through. It is a long and arduous process, starting with revamping our
>by-laws which John also took charge with the help of Pam Slate. Then the
>incorporation letters and forms had to be drafted and filed with the right
>entities, followed with more forms and payments. Thank you so much, John,
>Arnold, and Pam! John is now in the process of applying for non-profit
>status and we hope to get it approved in the next few months.
>
>After 12 years, the PBS being led by fearless leaders with forward visions
>that kept us current technologies and the commitment to take care of our
>members, our society is stronger than ever and continues to gain
>acknowledgements, support, and membership world-wide. There are still many
>things that we can improve upon, and we could not do it without your help.
>Please donate in your extra bulb seeds and bulbs (most get gobbled up so
>you don't have to worry that no one will want them). If you have an
>article, like to write something, or see something that would be nice to
>feature in our newsletter, please send them along. The wiki continues to be
>the great source of accumulated bulb knowledge and we always need help.
>Consider donating a bit of your time, images or text to the collective
>fundamental tome of modern bulb growing.
>
>Happy official birthday to the PBS and happy growing,
>
>Nhu Nguyen
>PBS President
>_______________________________________________
>pbs mailing list
>pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php
>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/
>




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:20:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Putman <putman@pobox.upenn.edu>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] IBS Gallery Fate
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Along that line, I am the "author" of several photographs in the Hippeastrum section of the IBS Gallery.  The copyright of these is still mine.  A few are of species that have become rather difficult to obtain.  If someone with the time and talent will volunteer to help, I am quite willing to send these along (electronically, of course) to be added to the PBS Wiki.  Let me know if you are interested.

Steve Putman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nhu Nguyen" <xerantheum@gmail.com>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:28:17 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] IBS Gallery Fate

Hi Jim,

When we first heard that the IBS was closing its doors, we had the same
concerns that the gallery of many photos will be gone along with the
society. Mike Mace made contact with the then president to ask what will
happen to the gallery. He said that he was going to try and keep the
gallery online and has local copies of it and will try to get it going. I
don't think we got very far with trying to get it hosted on PBS. The
important thing to remember is that apart from a few rare species of
amaryllids, our wiki has much better representation, newer photos, and
better resolution. Pursuing the old IBS gallery is not an effort that the
PBS Wiki team can afford at the moment due to various issues including
negotiations, copyright, and time.

If you ever need to look up anything from the IBS, I would suggest using
the Way Back Machine as suggested in the other post.

Best,
Nhu

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:45 AM, James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> wrote:

>         Has PBS given any thought to engulfing the IBS Gallery into the
> PBS web site?
>



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:47:15 +1000
From: steven hart <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Bonsai Akadama for Worsleya germination?
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        <CACm0T0d9aQguPhVF=sEb9UPziC2TSCBO2ELApxkM+XA9PUq--g@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Fernando,  I don't know what akadamia is,  but I have had 100%
success growing 60 Worsleya from seed to 6 years old in pure perlite.. I
live in Australia so our climate might be similar in some ways...  I had
lost about the same amount of seeds trying other methods including,
moisture spraying, water floating, & sandy seed raising mix, all of these
seeds rotted...

Perlite if you don't know it, is from memory,  neutral, super-heated
pumice, average size is about 5-8mm diameter, but you can get crushed too,
crushed would hold too much moisture for your seeds I think.. It gives lots
of aeration like an orchid mix would, but is pure so seeds don't become
contaminated, & it holds a well distributed water table.

It is readily available online & on sites like eBay, it is so light it can
be easily posted internationally,  so it might be worth you researching
this product.. It is pure white, & clean of all other material so should be
importable to you.

Steven

On 3 February 2015 at 05:38, Fernando Cecilio <fcecilio58@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everybody!
> I have read the piece on Worsleys germination in pure pumice, but it is not
> sold here in Portugal.
> Do you think bonsai akadama would work?
> Thanks and regards
> Fernando
> _______________________________________________
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> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/
> -
>
Steven : )
Esk Queensland Australia
Summer Zone 5  Winter Zone 10


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