I'm new and have no idea how this place works? iPhone 6 Shaund > On 7 Nov 2014, at 6:12 am, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: re Rainlilies (steven hart) > 2. Re: Changing times (T O) > 3. Help with Lilium Nanum (Seaton Ager) > 4. Re: Keeping current (with tech) (Erik Van Lennep) > 5. Re: Help with Lilium Nanum (Ceridwen Lloyd) > 6. Saffron Walden (David Pilling) > 7. Re: Saffron Walden (Tim Eck) > 8. Re: Help with Lilium Nanum (Jane McGary) > 9. PBS forum style and survey (Nhu Nguyen) > 10. re joining Facebook (Ina Crossley) > 11. Re: re joining Facebook (Jude Haverington) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:54:49 +1000 > From: steven hart <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] re Rainlilies > Message-ID: > <CACm0T0cBb7+ugWbQsbd7_xtWEfq-E24vE3P7o2k+S69n7jKyVw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oh Ina, even though you may not read this it means something to say it.... > Don't be so disheartened, your input gave me an enthusiastic interest in > zephyranthes & thanks to your contributions I now have a lovely collection > of them... > > Im a terrible speller, but we have to let it be water off a ducks back, > there are many out there who's first language is not English & many of us > would never have the time to contribute if we concentrated too hard on the > spelling instead of the point... > > But most of all I here you say, you would like to see groups connect or > overlap.. Well we do really, there is facebook groups as you know & I my > self often refer to PBS as a wonderful source of information or a great > place to ask a question, & by doing so I am now in the middle of > overlapping groups in a sense.. But I do know what you mean though... > > I have said before, I think one of the reasons some people like > facebook groups is, you can easily download a photo, instead of going > through the time consuming method that is needed to post a link instead.. > > It would be good to see you still sending your seeds to give others a > chance to grow their love of zephyranthes > Happy collecting > Steven > > > >> On 6 November 2014 08:47, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have been on Facebook for a couple of years now. An amazing place for >> bulb enthusiasts. In fact, it has been wonderful to connect with others >> who are into Rainlilies. >> >> I gave up on the PBS forum as there was so much that was of absolutely no >> interest to me, and the wangling over spellings etc. Yes, a lot was worth >> while knowing, but that is on Facebook too. >> >> The PBS website is an amazing source of info. The number of FB members >> who refer to it is also amazing. >> >> If only the 2 could be welded together! >> >> I thought I would check on what I have missed out on with the BX this year >> in the way of seeds. And what do you know, there was a heap of Rainlily >> seeds in April. Wow! Until I looked and they were the ones I sent. >> >> The PBS has wonderful, knowledgeable people, and so does Facebook. >> Wonderful where the two overlap. >> >> For those who want to respond to this email, remember, I no longer follow >> the forum. >> >> Ina Crossley >> Auckland, New Zealand >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > -- > Steven : ) > Esk Queensland Australia > Summer Zone 5 Winter Zone 10 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:58:09 -0800 > From: T O <enoster@hotmail.com> > To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Changing times > Message-ID: <BAY403-EAS2442CDA2E9BED5A2E53BBB1BB840@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > This is in response to Ina and Jim's words. > > I just turned 29 today, but I get the feeling that I am one of the younger ones into bulbs and (rock) gardening in general (let alone the forum). Things like Ian Young's Bulb Log, PBS wiki and PBS forum are perfect for me because I can easily access them with my phone, which is really just a compact computer with a phone app (smartphones). My free time is little and I must make every moment in my day (and night) count. I have a 1 year old baby girl who I gladly spend most of my free time with, a full time job, and an ever growing list of house chores from my wife. Yet I love bulbs, tending to my rock garden, and expanding my forest garden with all sorts of interesting species mostly from seed. My point in telling you all this is that I probably represent many of the "Millennial" generation by being so busy, thus not having the time or extra income to be a part of any of the great plant societies. I may even be one of few of my generation to have such an obsession with plan ts > and growing species from seed. > > I do wish the PBS offered more ways to interconnect with other members (or an easier way to share pictures, without a third party like Flikr) > > -Travis Owen > Rogue River, OR > See my garden pictures on my Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/travislloydowen/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 23:22:38 -0800 > From: Seaton Ager <m.ager@xtra.co.nz> > To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] Help with Lilium Nanum > Message-ID: > <1415258558.97472.YahooMailNeo@web121301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Not sure if I am sending this to the correct email to have is displayed as I am new at this, but I hope someone out there can tell me the best way to grow Lilium Nanum, I have terrible trouble with the bulb rotting, what is the best mixture and best position for them to grow, I grow them in pots. > > many thanks Mel > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:59:51 +0100 > From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Keeping current (with tech) > Message-ID: > <CACLJm6oznn8JosiXcrQLCDuRpf9Bvoo2vBk2B-6pgUD+sMfasg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Too right, Jim. I work every day at the nexus of ecological regeneration > and opportunities for young people. There is probably a higher interest > than ever amongst those who would put PBS (along with that of many other > organisations) information to good use, so flagging membership is not a > factor of disinterest. > > The old maxim is still very true: "If you want to get someone to join you, > walk over and stand beside them, then walk back together to where you'd > like to be." It's beyond pointless to persist in trying to get them to jump > on board your old leaky boat! > > And remember a good definition of madness is "repeating the same (futile) > action over and over, expecting a different result". > > > erik > > On 6 November 2014 01:49 Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:12:50 -0800 > From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Many of the old horticultural organizations are all moaning about dropping >> membership and the lack of younger members..... > > ..... > > Erik van Lennep , Europe (Ireland, The Netherlands and Catalunya) > > SKYPE green.heart > > http://www.circlesquared.org/ > > youth and elders short video <http://vimeo.com/62177578/> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/erikvanlennep/ > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > *Innovation Studio* > "we teach sustainability, creativity, effective communication and personal > management skills to aspiring entrepreneurs and leaders". > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > *?You never change things by fighting the existing reality.To change > something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.?* > > *? Richard Buckminster Fuller* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 21:14:51 +1030 > From: Ceridwen Lloyd <ceridwen@internode.on.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Help with Lilium Nanum > Message-ID: <7B830C65-BCDB-44EE-AB2F-9EE0DAA377C0@internode.on.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I second that request - and does anyone have seed to sell? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 6 Nov 2014, at 5:52 pm, Seaton Ager <m.ager@xtra.co.nz> wrote: >> >> Hi Not sure if I am sending this to the correct email to have is displayed as I am new at this, but I hope someone out there can tell me the best way to grow Lilium Nanum, I have terrible trouble with the bulb rotting, what is the best mixture and best position for them to grow, I grow them in pots. >> >> many thanks Mel >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:48:09 +0000 > From: David Pilling <david@pilling.demon.co.uk> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] Saffron Walden > Message-ID: <545B6E09.4020807@pilling.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > > Today many of the newspapers in the UK report the return of commercial > saffron growing in England, after a break of 200 years, to the town that > takes its name from the flower "Saffron Walden". > > Here's a link: > > http://telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/… > > > > > -- > David Pilling > http://www.davidpilling.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 08:49:56 -0500 > From: "Tim Eck" <teck11@embarqmail.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Saffron Walden > Message-ID: <001601cff9c8$8da80d10$a8f82730$@embarqmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Saffron grows very well in zone 6 USA. The only problem is voles which will > destroy (decimate is too mild a word) a patch in a few weeks. The secret > involves hardware cloth. It's also very easy to control weeds because the > summer dormancy allows mowing or herbiciding depending on your bent. > (Please don't rant about RoundUp - pure glyphosate is less toxic than table > salt). At my previous house I had about 100 square feet of saffron bed > which grew from a couple of pounds of bulbs a Pennsylvania Dutch friend > gave me. There was no real secret in Lancaster county - they double or > triple each year and need to be thinned every other year. > When I moved, I thought I'd give it a try without the hardware cloth and the > patch disappeared completely except for one or two that bloomed a couple of > years. I still have a few ounces of saffron lying around and giggle every > time I see the prices in stores. The PA Dutch also use 'American saffron' > which is the flower of safflower, a brilliantly yellow orange flowered > annual thistle reminiscent of holly. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David Pilling > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:48 AM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Saffron Walden > > Hi, > > Today many of the newspapers in the UK report the return of commercial > saffron growing in England, after a break of 200 years, to the town that > takes its name from the flower "Saffron Walden". > > Here's a link: > > http://telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/… > n-back-into-Saffron-Walden.html > > > > > -- > David Pilling > http://www.davidpilling.com/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:26:32 -0800 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Help with Lilium Nanum > Message-ID: <E1XmQpn-0000ck-Bz@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I've grown Lilium nanum (in both cases the purple form) to flowering > twice but was not able to keep it going. This is a small-growing > Himalayan species whose habitat is described as "alpine scrub at > 4000-4250 meters." That tells you everything you need to know about > why this bulb is hard for us to grow (unless "we" live in the North > Atlantic rim countries -- I expect the Scots carpet their rock > gardens with it). Alpine bulbs, like other high alpines, have evolved > to survive a long winter dormancy under snow cover, where they are > fairly dry and the temperature is much milder than the air > temperature above the snow. If I get this bulb again, I'll try > overwintering it by drying it off but not completely, sealing the pot > in a plastic freezer bag, and keeping it in the refrigerator (not the > freezer) from November through April. I would use a soil mix of sand, > peat, and (with apologies to non-Northwesterners) lots of ground pumice. > > Jane McGary > Portland, Oregon, USA > > > 22 PM 11/5/2014, you wrote: >> Hi Not sure if I am sending this to the correct email to have is >> displayed as I am new at this, but I hope someone out there can tell >> me the best way to grow Lilium Nanum, I have terrible trouble with >> the bulb rotting, what is the best mixture and best position for >> them to grow, I grow them in pots. >> >> many thanks Mel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:00:12 -0600 > From: Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] PBS forum style and survey > Message-ID: > <CAG=tLbhoji=cuTVE+9W_NaE=Wa8rSotX6-6QHQJWTsnjc0UYbQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi all, > > We have discussion about this topic quite periodically on this forum and I > think anyone involving in a plant society will have been in discussion with > their society about dwindling members. The fact is, as Jane McGary one time > pointed out, "young" people now are too distracted and they are not settled > into a more stable economic life until they reach their late or early 40's. > So rather than trying to appeal to young people who would like to grow > plants but have to pay rent instead, the focus should be on people in their > 40's and 50's. I think that focus on the middle aged demographics as well > and reaching out to the younger ones should happen simultaneously. > > As it turns out, Facebook laments the fact that most of their users are no > longer young people. Younger people have moved on to other fast-paced even > more ephemeral nature of social media. I still think that the Facebook > model works well for spreading words about the PBS, but it does not allow > for deep discussion that could then be archived and retrieved later on. Try > searching for some growing advice by Jim Shields on Hippeastrum and you'd > go mad trying to navigate their search pages. > > The Board of Directors have always tried our best to reflect the current > wants of our membership. Sometimes it's not easy since we have to take into > account all demographics of the society. It sounds like there is a want for > a different style of forum, one that allows easy photo attachments. I think > it's time we take some action, but before we could implement anything, we'd > like to hear what YOU, the forum members think and what YOU have to say. If > we have enough interests, we can start the ball rolling. So, let the > discussion begin. > > Also, to help us gauge interest, I have created a short survey. Please help > us decide what is the best course of action. It will only take a minute and > will allow you to voice your thoughts on what you'd like your forum to be. > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/… > > Nhu > PBS President > >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM, T O <enoster@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> My point in telling you all this is that I probably represent many of the >> "Millennial" generation by being so busy, thus not having the time or extra >> income to be a part of any of the great plant societies. I may even be one >> of few of my generation to have such an obsession with plants and growing >> species from seed. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 08:09:58 +1300 > From: Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> > To: "PBS >> Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] re joining Facebook > Message-ID: <545BC786.6090007@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > There seems to be this idea that Facebook is just to socialise and show > yourself off etc. Which for some it is. But for a lot of people, like > me, it is for the groups on Facebook. Groups which cater for all sorts > of plant interests as well as other interests of course. > > I read somewhere the ones who socialise go for Twitter or similar, > anything new, and Facebook is increasingly being taken on board by older > people. > > If you do consider joining FB, I would suggest you use a pseudonym. I > regret I didn't. Don't give any information about yourself. And check > your profile and untick anything which affects your privacy. Having done > that, just look for your interests. > > Ina > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:12:21 -0500 > From: Jude Haverington <tylus.seklos@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] re joining Facebook > Message-ID: > <CAPH75tBi1KXKAcDYQuh14V7xLAKF5+TSVfK=U9R-ZfcrSZ-wMw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > And, it's another full time job! :) > > >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There seems to be this idea that Facebook is just to socialise and show >> yourself off etc. Which for some it is. But for a lot of people, like me, >> it is for the groups on Facebook. Groups which cater for all sorts of >> plant interests as well as other interests of course. >> >> I read somewhere the ones who socialise go for Twitter or similar, >> anything new, and Facebook is increasingly being taken on board by older >> people. >> >> If you do consider joining FB, I would suggest you use a pseudonym. I >> regret I didn't. Don't give any information about yourself. And check >> your profile and untick anything which affects your privacy. Having done >> that, just look for your interests. >> >> Ina >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 142, Issue 2 > ***********************************