Hi, On 07/11/2014 13:07, Bulborum Botanicum wrote: > That doesn't say anything David > The flowers where already in the corm when you bought them > you have to wait one year to see the real results Yes of course the real test of my efforts is if the new corms formed this Winter will be as big as the ones I bought or as floriferous. However, we've discussed saffron and the difficulty getting it to flower before. No one has been brave enough say what you just have - that the flowers are already in the corms. I have read suggestions that flowering depends on how the corms are treated when planted in Autumn. Someone told me that their corms flowered if left in the paper bag until they sprouted - that's what I did. What you are saying, is that flowering success is predetermined in the corms one buys and nothing one does post-purchase (in the first Fall) can change things. -- David Pilling http://www.davidpilling.com/