Thank you James and Peter. It has puzzled me before now too. Ina Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a On 27/05/2014 8:54 a.m., Peter Taggart wrote: > AxB = (F1) > (AxB) x (AxB) =(F2) > so what was offered was (H. neopardinum x H. papilio) x (H. neopardinum x > H. papilio)