We just made final selections last year, so now we cut the basal plate of the final selections and wait for them to offset. The rate of offset will be the determining factor when they reach market, but they are truly amazing plants. Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of J.E. Shields Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 6:15 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum Season and hardiness... again Ask Tony Avent -- he has the good ones. I sent most of the seeds from that cross to Tony. I'm completely out of the business! Jim Shields At 04:27 PM 7/5/2013 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Jim S. and all, > > >...... > > > The best for hardy outdoors crinums in my > > climate are the hybrid, Crinum [variabile x bulbispermum]. > > When will these hit the garden centers? ... > commerce? Thanks Jim W. ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W