Thanks very much, Alberto! I'm glad you are out there.... Jim S. At 10:09 PM 12/1/2013 +0000, you wrote: >Grandiflora/carinata/minuta is the large rose one of the Dutch trade, >freely offsetting, normally sterile, large flowers. Style looks >"dismayed", floppy, flaccid, weak (your choice). Leaves have a keel underneath. > >Macrosiphon is smaller, the same color, not so "open", sets seeds normally >and the the style is typically erect. > > > >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W