On 25 Apr 2013, at 14:54, Bill Lee wrote: > Why not knock on the door and ask permission to take a small cutting? Years ago when I had a thing for pinks (dianthus), I would notice good plants here and there as I wandered about in the spring. No one ever refused my request for a few cuttings. In fact, I had the sense that many people were quite flattered that something in their garden had aroused acquisitive instincts. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Z. 7-8, cool Mediterranean climate