Fourteen grandchildren. Good for you, Roy! I was interested to read that he was a longtime professor of landscape horticulture. Roy could have used his credentials to intimidate amateurs like me, but I don't think he ever even mentioned them. Roy helped out generously when we were lobbying the US government not to ban imports of Alstroemeria aurea. He was very skeptical that the government would listen, but he went ahead and submitted information documenting his experience growing and selling the species for years. His information was critical in showing the government that the species was already well established in the country, and not as much of a problem as they thought. Thanks, Roy!