Dylan: Glad you brought up the sauromatum issue. Well over a decade ago, the sauromatum switch to typhonium was discussed ad nauseum on Aroid-l, with all the scientific justification presented. A small handful of us weren't convinced and never changed our records. Here we are now in 2012 with two new mea culpa papers published reinstating the genus sauromatum. To me, pseudodracontium is in the same boat. I'll go out on a limb and predict that this merger sinks like the sauromatum one. Just because a bandwagon goes by with lots of people on it doesn't mean everyone should automatically jump on...it may be heading to the dump. Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Hannon Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:06 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Pseudodracontium Tim, Agreed. There is also the possibility (seems doubtful in this case) that the change may go over like a lead balloon in the scientific community. It is after all a proposal, a somewhat subjective one, that aims to arrange things better than before. It doesn't always "take". Recently there has been talk that Sauromatum would be subsumed under Typhonium but apparently this was reconsidered. Same with Albuca vs. Ornithogalum, though this was a little more complicated with internal rearrangements. A heartbreaker was Kleinia saginata, a name published at last for a plant hortists had called Senecio fulleri for many years. Dylan Hannon On 26 June 2012 19:19, Tim Chapman <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com> wrote: > >From previous experience I can say that trying to implement name > >changes > before they are official is a waste of time. I'm not doubting that > this change will happen, but it was suggested well over a decade ago. > To expect nurseries to change names now is somewhat ridiculous (no offense). > Technically to list something as A harmandii is invalid until an > official publication is made. > > I can give several examples of why jumping the gun on name changes is a > bad idea. It can indeed lead to MUCH more confusion. > > Tim Chapman > >