I am no expert on the Ornithogaloideae Jude, but it might help if you try to get a sharper picture. Ornithogalum and Albuca are( I believe) sorted out at a genetic level but I think for practical reasons the divisions between species are a little blurred. Also flowers would probably help. I grow Fritillarias, Scillas, and Erethroniums with thin papery skin- that feature alone does not define ornithogaloides. I have Albuca related genera down as distinguished by "free or only shortly united...... +/- oblong tepals yellowish or whitish with a distinct broad green to brown longitudinal band on the outer surface associated with 3-5 mediallyaggregated veins. The Ornithogalum related genera are "distinguished by their free of shortly fused, usually ovate or lanceolate tepals that are thick- or thin textured and unicoloured or with narrow indistinct green or brownish keel on adaxial surfacethat is not associated with medially aggregated veins." These are from an article by John Manning in the I.B.S.A. bulletin 58 I see Nhu has given a link now but perhaps the extract will be of help. Peter (UK) On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:37 PM, The Silent Seed <santoury@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Where are the bulb experts? On vacation, hopefully staying cool! > > > Is there a definite way to distinguish Ornithogalum from Albuca ? > > > > > Okay - here is one of the pictures I took of it: > http://flickr.com/photos/21850425@N03/… > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >