thank you. i understand robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Chapman" <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds > It's a simple concept. Their seeds need to be kept at a set cool > temperature. If you already have a walk in fridge that maintains a set > temperature, adjusting an incubator by a few degrees is very easy. If you > have it outside or in a greenhouse you are dealing with fluctuating > temperatures and need to be able to both cool and heat to maintain a > temperature setpoint as well varying energy requirements for both. The > fridge system offers much more control and easier fine tuning. > > Tim Chapman > > On Dec 26, 2011, at 8:13 AM, "Robin Carrier" <robin@no1bird.com> wrote: > >> please tell me what is the point. go back a step - or two. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robin Carrier" <robin@no1bird.com> >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds >> >> >>> i know this must be dumb, but i stiil don't see the point of heating >>> some >>> thing that is intentionally in a cooled room. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Richard Haard" <richrd@nas.com> >>> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 7:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds >>> >>> >>>> Robin - >>>> >>>> Yes, alternative would be running a second refrigerator. In it, I'm >>>> incubating about 15 lily collections, some are small batches from PBS >>>> seed >>>> exchange, others larger for production. My first attempt at this >>>> scheme! >>>> Fall planting has not been reliable and timing difficult. This seems >>>> like >>>> best solution for small lots. The box is glued together 2 inch >>>> styrofoam >>>> and has light source if needed. Can be scaled down to fit a normal >>>> refrigerator. >>>> >>>> The walk in cooler is 12 x 12 x 8'. We need the lower temp range for >>>> cold >>>> stratification and actually by next month will be 36 degrees. . Heated >>>> box >>>> is size of large camp cooler and heat source regulated by thermostat is >>>> minimal. Energy 'cost' is considerably less than setting up another >>>> refrigerator to maintain 48 F. Also I have option to include additional >>>> temp ranges with light sources if needed in same cooler. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Robin Carrier wrote: >>>> >>>>> i've missed something. >>>>> >>>>> am i to understand that mr haard keeps seeds or plants that are >>>>> heated >>>>> to >>>>> 48 degrees in a walk in cooler which is cooled to 40 degrees?. >>>>> >>>>> sorry >>>>> >>>>> i probably shouldn't sign my name to this. >>>>> >>>>> robin >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Richard Haard" <richrd@nas.com> >>>>> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:13 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] germinating lily seeds >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I've set up an insulated box with heat source and thermostat inside >>>>>> our >>>>>> walk in cooler. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maintains 48 F nicely with 40 degree cooler temp.... >>>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Kathleen Sayce wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone on this list have an email address for Darm Crook? I was >>>>>>> reading about his 50 F growing chamber using a refrigerator, and >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> like to talk to him about this. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard T. Haard >>>>>> Bellingham, Wa., >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>>>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>>>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>>> >>>> Richard T. Haard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >