Thanks to all those who added experience and advice. I feel more confidant about the 'real' xAmarcrinum and hope to see flowers later in the season. I am also encouraged to try a pup outside next spring. I hope I also encouraged a couple PBSers to try theirs in the ground too and we'll all report back on results. Best and thanks to all Jim W. ps Meanwhile Crinum season continues here with 2nd and 3rd spikes on many including the great 'Super Ellen'. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +