Dear All, Thanks for the new pix. I was wishing for these. The flower is quite different looking from C. vansonii and makes Harold's comments very obvious ( exerted floral parts). Thnaks to all for the effort. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +