Mary Sue wrote: > I have successfully grown a number of our California Erythroniums > from seed. <snip> > > On the other hand my experience with Erythronium tuolumnese does not > match Paige's. I started seed October 2000. It germinated well and > has been coming back since then, but has not bloomed until this > year. There is only one flower and I have 18 plants and the flower > opened just as we've had a couple of days of good rainfall so I don't > know how long it will last. Pictures on the wiki show that not all > plants have as many flowers as Paige has reported. I can only hope > that every year my plants will improve. One wonders if there is a > difference in different populations. We could do some tests. But that involves phytos and aggro. Whatever else counts, I suspect that tuolumnense is a pig for water, duff bearing appropriate fungi, and haze-filtered sunshine such as we helplessly give it in our garden. Maybe it doesn't get them back home. I was out late this afternoon, hastily reconfirming flower counts. Lots of 7s. A few 8s. Did not check the entire bed, but found no immediate 10s. But do admit, even 7 is interesting. I have photographs but have not faced learning how to upload to the wiki. Will send pix to someone else willing to upload. E. helenae en masse sounds wonderful; I have flowered it but not kept it. Paige Woodward