Jane McGary wrote: > This plant is widely grown in the Pacific > Northwest in areas where winter lows in the > mid-teens F are common. However, that does not > mean it will thrive in Illinois, where it will be > subject to summer rainfall and warm night temperatures. > Interesting that Telos Rare Bulbs lists E. tuolumnense as Z4-8. Or is this a copy of those oh-so-reliable Dutch descriptions? That said, E. helenae appears to come from a similar low elevation environment (Chaparral, Yellow Pine Forest, Foothill Woodland), yet is doing well in our Z5-6-7 environment (pick a number, any number) with all that summer rainfall and many warmish nights. Is this to be expected? Also, are erythroniums self compatible, or does it take two to get seed? --Roy NW of Boston First flower open on E. helenae today