> then sprayed with > Roundup in a strong mix, I treat fresh cut stumps of vines and weed trees with various strong mixtures. When spraying roundup on perennial weeds, though, I try not to make it strong. If you do, the top growth of what you spray may die too quickly for the roots to get poisoned well. Kelly O'Neill http://www.bigbubblers.com/ and and Wet Rock Gardens Flower Farm 2877 N 19th Street - Springfield, Oregon 97477 U-Pick and more at the farm (open 9 to 6, Sun, Wed and Fri - from March thru Halloween) kellyo@wetrock.com - http://www.wetrock.com/