Dear Justin Where and how did you germinate your Isophysis from? I have had very little luck with the few seeds I have been able to try. It's been one of my "horticultural holy grail" for some time now. As I am sure is no suprise it is an interesting and botanically odd plant Marc NY USA - -----Original Message----- >From: pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org >Sent: May 17, 2009 1:21 PM >To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 76, Issue 17 > >Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > >List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Tulipa sprengeri (totototo@telus.net) > 2. Re: pbs Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16-Gladiolus tristus (Paul Licht) > 3. Isophysis tasmanica (Justin Smith) > 4. Re: Isophysis tasmanica (Robert Hamilton) > 5. Re: Isophysis tasmanica (Justin Smith) > 6. Re: Isophysis tasmanica (Dennis Kramb) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:47:12 -0700 >From: totototo@telus.net >Subject: Re: [pbs] Tulipa sprengeri >To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >Message-ID: <4A0E99B0.12099.152B26@localhost> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >On 16 May 2009, at 8:13, James Waddick wrote: > >> Yesterday the first flower opened on Tulipa sprengeri. It is >> by far the last tulip to bloom here. I anticipate its bloom each year. > >That makes two of us. > >I've been growing it for about 20 years. Yes, it self-sows with reasonable >freedom _in_ _the_ _garden_ but not under wild-ish conditions. My house is at >the end of a long (300') lane that is rather wild, and over the years I've >tried to introduce various ornamentals there. Very few have established. Along >the line of my water line, which was backfilled with pit run gravel (i.e. sand >and gravel mixed), there is some Tulipa sprengeri, but it neither flowers >freely nor sets seed well, perhaps because of a lack of light from trees >overhead, perhaps from the lean soil they grow in, perhaps from root >competition with the trees. > >In 1997 on a visit to Saltspring Island, I took along a huge quantity of T.s. >seed and spent an afternoon sprinkling it here and there along the rough >roadsides. To my knowledge, no T.s. blooms on Saltspring Island. I cannot say, >however, if this is because the seed was eaten by critters, or the flower buds >form but are eaten by deer. Whichever, it's clearly not easy to establish >outside the garden by scattering seed. > >I believe the bulbs do, in fact, multiply if they are growing well. I >definitely have clumps of T.s. here and there. > >It is a common plant as seed, uncommon as a bulb. Christine Skelmersdale wrote >a squib on the Broadleigh nursery for a commemorative issue of either the AGS >or SRGC bulletin, and remarked how difficult it is to find the bulbs when >customers order them. They burrow down very deeply in their special bed, and >aren't very large. I wondered at the time if fly screen would suffice to keep >them from burrowing more deeply. > >When the AGS got its seed exchange going around 1950, E. B. Anderson, who ran >the exchange in its first years specifically said "no Tulipa sprengeri" in his >advice to donors. It was considered too common and weedy, I suppose. But otoh, >EBA was an expert bulb grower so his perspective was a tad biased. It's a plant >I wouldn't want to be without and I don't mind that it's gradually turning up >here and there in my garden. > >I have a bulb or two of purported 'Trotter's Form' from exchange seed, but I >see no difference between it and what usually develops. I am not even sure what >the difference is supposed to be. > >I suspect, Jim, that your difficulty with T.s. is (as so often the case) due to >climate. Our climate here, with its wet winters, bone dry summers, moderate >temperatures, and very few humid days is ideal for many Mediterranean bulbs, >hence T.s. does very well. > >It may also be significant that our soils are naturally rather poor due to >leaching of soluble nutrients by heavy winter rains. They are quite deficient >in nitrogen, magnesium, and calcium in particular. > >EBA used a strategy for growing summer-dry bulbs in the damp climates he >gardened in: he planted them among the roots of deciduous trees and shrubs. The >bulbs completed their growth cycle and were fading by the time the deciduous >material overhead started to leaf out and pump moisture from the soil >underneath. As long as T.s. gets adequate sun during its spring growth period, >it doesn't matter if it's shaded during the summer. > > >-- >Rodger Whitlock >Victoria, British Columbia, Canada >Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate >on beautiful Vancouver Island > >http://maps.google.ca/maps/… > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 12:39:23 -0700 >From: Paul Licht <plicht@berkeley.edu> >Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16-Gladiolus tristus >To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >Message-ID: <4A0F166B.2010403@berkeley.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >A word of caution on Gladiolus tristus. We have lots of experience with >it at the Garden. It is a great flower and one I am very fond of, but it >has to be watched carefully because it does too well. There are areas in >the Bay Area region where it has a tendency to be invasive; it has >certainly moved around in our collection. I think it may be safer in >other regions of the country and we have lots of bulbs we can sell >inexpensively. > >Paul Licht, Director >Univ. California Botanical Garden >200 Centennial Drive >Berkeley, CA 94720 >(510)-643-8999 >http://botanicalgarden.berkeley.edu/ > > > >pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: >> Send pbs mailing list submissions to >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." >> >> >> List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Thanks Bob for Moraeas (Alberto Castillo) >> 2. Hymenocallis euchardifolia and Caliphruria korsakoffi >> (Tomas Sandberg) >> 3. Moraea polyanthos (robertwerra@pacific.net) >> 4. Moraea polyanthos (robertwerra@pacific.net) >> 5. Re: Moraea polyanthos (Lauw de Jager) >> 6. Re: Moraea polyanthos (Christiaan van Schalkwyk) >> 7. Tulipa sprengeri (James Waddick) >> 8. Gladiolus tristis (Kathleen Sayce) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:50:42 +0000 >> From: Alberto Castillo <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Thanks Bob for Moraeas >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <BLU104-W267FA14308AEEA93876946AE5F0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> I second adding that Bob's SUPERB seed produced 100% germination and extra fat corms at the end of the first season of growth. >> >> >> >> And, there was a fine selection of uncommon species in the lot. >> >> >> >> We had been discussing with some friends the value of one's own seed against some commercial sources from which results are pretty modest. If commercial seed around were like Bob's Moraeas our pots would be bursting with seedlings. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for being such a nice guy and for producing such fine seed >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Disfrut? todos los especiales que MSN tiene para vos >> http://especiales.latam.msn.com/cl/ >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:11:15 +0200 >> From: Tomas Sandberg <to.sa@comhem.se> >> Subject: [pbs] Hymenocallis euchardifolia and Caliphruria korsakoffi >> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> Message-ID: <CD3D3BA6-6D1C-4364-89E2-3FACC4BFF5E2@comhem.se> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Hi, >> >> I have 4 seeds of Hym euchardifolia and 5 seeds of Caliphruria >> korsakoffi reaped today for trade, if you are interested please >> contact me privately! >> >> >> Best regards >> Tomas S >> Sweden >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:21:05 -0700 >> From: <robertwerra@pacific.net> >> Subject: [pbs] Moraea polyanthos >> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Cc: Robert J Werra <robertwerra@pacific.net> >> Message-ID: <001101c9d592$4d1a4ac0$b8296ad0@popbob> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Jim, welcome to "fugacious"=transient, ephemeral, evanescent, fleeting, passing, shortlived, transitory, etc. Moraea polyanthos is among a good share of moraeas that are fugacious. Blossom lasts from a few hours to one day+. For some, if you miss lunch or dinner all you see is a withered blossom. However, They have survived for centuries by putting on repeat performances for weeks to months to attract their pollinators. M. polyanthos blooms toward the end of the winter growing moraea season. With maturity it will produce a number of medium sized light blue ?fragrant? blossoms during late afternoon to evening and will repeat every few days for several weeks. On my personal 5 star ratings I give it 3 stars. It seems to be self pollinating with many seeds and seems to produce underground cormlets as well. You decide if it is worth it. Regards, Bob >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:19:18 -0700 >> From: <robertwerra@pacific.net> >> Subject: [pbs] Moraea polyanthos >> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Cc: Robert J Werra <robertwerra@pacific.net> >> Message-ID: <001401c9d5ab$313635d0$b8296ad0@popbob> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Jim, I don't know how many moraeas can be grown in an eastern or midwest coldframe. However there is a British amateur coldframe grower who grows many many moraeas. Regards, Bob >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:22:37 +0200 >> From: Lauw de Jager <contact@bulbargence.com> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea polyanthos >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <C634365D.108%contact@bulbargence.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> >> Deqr all, >> I would like to stand up for this Moraea, as I particularly appreciate this >> 'Homeria' type. It is the last Moraea of the season here. Indeed the >> individual flower does not last very long (here several days), but the >> ramified infloresence has at least 20 flowers which open during a period of >> 2-3 weeks. I have to add that they are planted in the ground under 35% shade >> and have sufficient humdity to keep them going. I confirm that plenty seed. >> is produced which is collected at the end of the growing period (mid June). >> To answer Jim M.question: yes it is very worthwhile plant to grow >> Greetings >> >> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:38:51 -0500 >From: Justin Smith <oothal@hotmail.com> >Subject: [pbs] Isophysis tasmanica >To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >Message-ID: <BAY124-W5095CB9991B15BC9B6A557DE5C0@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > >Hi all, > > > >I have several small plants of Isophysis tasmanica but they don't seem to be growing any at all. They just sit there. > > > >Anyone have any experience with this species? > > > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > >Justin > >Woodville, TX > > > >My Alophia drummondii are blooming more this year than they ever have before. Must be a good year for them. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. >http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/… > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:07:11 +1000 >From: Robert Hamilton <roberth6@mac.com> >Subject: Re: [pbs] Isophysis tasmanica >To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >Message-ID: <BA08E4F6-CD95-4D53-936A-9E9E5B43BB9D@mac.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > >Hi Justin, > >I am not sure that this will help too much but wanted to share my >experience anyway. > >I visited Bathurst Harbour in Southwest Tasmania in late February >this year ,on a kayaking trip. During this time we climbed Mount >Beattie which overlooks the harbour . Near the top there were >plants of Isophysis tasmania and Blandfordia punicea growing in >conglomerate. I have posted an image below . There were other >plants growing in more conventional situations. > >Its an alpine plant which I am sure would dislike your Texas summers . > >http://idisk.mac.com/roberth6-Public/?view=web > >Cheers, > >Rob in Tasmania > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:42:16 -0500 >From: Justin Smith <oothal@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [pbs] Isophysis tasmanica >To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >Message-ID: <BAY124-W37F00595F35A1009C560A7DE5D0@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > >Thanks for showing the pic. Seeing the mountains in the background, it is a lot different than I had imagined. I was not aware that I. tasmanica was an alpine species. I guess I will be happy if I can keep them alive until winter when I can provide nice cool growing conditions. > > > >Thanks again for posting the pic! > > > >Justin > > > > > > > > > > >> >> I visited Bathurst Harbour in Southwest Tasmania in late February >> this year ,on a kayaking trip. During this time we climbed Mount >> Beattie which overlooks the harbour . Near the top there were >> plants of Isophysis tasmania and Blandfordia punicea growing in >> conglomerate. I have posted an image below . There were other >> plants growing in more conventional situations. >> >> Its an alpine plant which I am sure would dislike your Texas summers . >> >> http://idisk.mac.com/roberth6-Public/?view=web >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rob in Tasmania >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >http://windowslive.com/explore/… > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:06:21 -0400 >From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com> >Subject: Re: [pbs] Isophysis tasmanica >To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >Message-ID: <4A10440D.7010508@badbear.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >> Its an alpine plant which I am sure would dislike your Texas summers . >> >> http://idisk.mac.com/roberth6-Public/?view=web >> >Nothing happens when I click on the BathurstHarbor.jpg >Oh well.... > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > >End of pbs Digest, Vol 76, Issue 17 >***********************************