In message <001401c9e60b$b3dd66f0$2f01a8c0@Library>, Jim McKenney <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com> writes >I’ve seen dahlias in European gardens during August in full, profuse bloom. They are easy to grow from seed, if anyone fancies having a go without investing in cultivars - I sowed seed in March, grew them on in an unheated greenhouse, and the plants, now outdoors, are on the verge of flowering - usually they then flower until the frost. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941