That's why they call it the delete key, isn't it? You don't have to read these posts. Sounds more like a self discipline problem to me. Many of us probably interpret "or such" a bit differently than you do, Jim. It's not as if these postings in any way crowd out postings on "bulbs or such" - it's just that right now no one seems to have anything to say about bulbs or such. We'll get back on track when we feel we have something to say about bulbs or such. Remember, it's the delete key. I could go on, but I just took out a batch of blueberry muffins, and I want to get the butter on them before they get cold. Jim McKenney