> Mulling over it, I came to the thought some time ago, that the generally > reliably hardy clones in the UK, e.g. the old but unspecial 'Crowborough' > and the recently named 'Glencoe', are probably from the summer-rainfall > area, though this is impossible to prove. There is is a small town close to Dundee called Glecoe in the north western part of the KwaZulu Natal province, so if this clone is named after the place of collection, it is from a summer rainfall area, with probably very cold winters. Hope this helps Christiaan