Anita, Adam, Jim McK., Jim W., and all, All this discussion suggests that someone should try producing tetraploid longituba, sprengeri, or chinensis -- someone significantly younger than Adam and also younger than I am! Germinate the seeds in colchicine solution. Aart van Voorst has done this for Clivia and for Haemanthus. See the archives of the clivia-enthusiast list in Yahoo Groups, http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/… . The method has been published in one of the "Clivia" yearbooks from the Clivia Society (South Africa) http://www.cliviasociety.org/ . I also think someone should make a systematic study of germination of Lycoris seeds. I'll try to generate enough Lycoris seeds this year to send some to Dell for the PBS BX/SX. Note that only the female (seed or berry or ovule) parent will be known for sure. All three of the species I have are in bloom now and grow in beds near each other: chinensis, longituba, and sprengeri. Consequently, interspecific hybrids are very likely. Regards, Jim Shields in central Indiana, USA ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA