The species you mention are certainly rare and desirable. Almost all Hippeastrum species are hard (for me at least!) to locate. If they are not on Mauro Peixoto's list of seeds, it is a question of getting lucky enough to find a source for each one, one at a time. Aloha! David Boucher <davbouch5@aol.com> ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)