Hi, Mary Gerritsen has added these new Calochortus species since the last announcement: Calochortus apiculatus, coeruleus, kennedyi, nudus, nuttallii, tiburonensis You can access them here: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… At least in Mozilla Firefox, you can just go back and get the next one from the table. This saves me having to do a link for each of these. The ongoing off topic discussion about shrubs, subshrubs, trees, and perennials seems an appropriate time to announce another new wiki addition. This is one of those genera that some people will be unhappy that I have included in the wiki. We decided long ago to err on the side of inclusiveness and as Lee P. has said have included plants that are relatives and may not technically be appropriate for the wiki. This genus is so interesting that I wanted to share it with those members of our group who do not know about it. Xanthorrhoea is an Australian genus that used to be in Liliaceae, but is now considered to be in its own family, Xanthorrhoeaceae . This family optionally includes the families Asphodelaceae and Hemerocallidaceae by APG II, families that have genera we often consider as belonging to our topic. Some Xanthorrhoea produce annual tubers during the growth cycle. So what are Xanthorrhoaeas? Shrubs, trees, perennials? Kew describes most of the species as nanophanerophytes, but a few as hemicryptophytes. nanophanerophyte stems: woody and persisting for several years buds: above soil level but normally below 3 m e.g.: shrubs hemicryptophyte stems: herbaceous, often dying back after the growing season, with shoots at soil level surviving buds: just on or below soil level e.g.: Aster, Viola odorata In Australia these are known as Grass Trees since the leaves are grass like. Some of the species rarely bloom except after fires which stimulates them into a reproduction cycle. There is a very long spike with small flowers opening first on the north side of the scape. Don Journet showed us pictures of them in bloom in mass when we visited him and I was envious of his opportunity to witness this. But then we were fortunate to see many in bloom in the Grampians where there had been fires in the summer. There is a lot of activity with pollinators buzzing around the flowers and apparently also birds looking for the pollinators according to one of my books, but we didn't witness this. Although they are most remarkable when they are in bloom, I think they are attractive too with light shining through the leaves as in my last example of an unknown species. The other species I identified mostly by what could grow in the areas we were in and by the process of elimination as they couldn't have been some of the other possible species. I understand you have to look at the leaves in cross section to be sure. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… It is interesting that our local fire sensitive bloomer, Xerophyllum tenax, also has a common name that includes grass (Bear Grass), used to be in the Liliaceae family and starts with X. When it doesn't bloom here, which is most of the time, when you see it you never expect what the flowers would look like if it did bloom. You might think it was a Carex. I only have slides of it so adding it to the wiki will have to await help from someone else or seeing it in bloom in the future. Mary Sue