BX 192 dormant or?

Canning, Scott scottc@WaveHill.org
Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:35:03 PST
I have some experience with South African winter-growing bulbs doing the
hemisphere-switch. Elizabeth Scholtz, Director Emeritus of the Brooklyn
Botanic Garden (and incredible global garden diplomat!) is a native of
South Africa and would bring me newly-dormant winter-growers in Nov. and
Dec. from Cape Town and Kirstenbosch. They were definitely reluctant to
switch; I handled as Alberto suggested with a gritty, very free-draining
mix, watered in once, keep cool with my other winter growers in a cool
greenhouse (50F night; 62F day) and wait for signs of activity. Some
would struggle into growth at the end of the cool season (Feb.-early
April). Keep them growing as long as possible (June?) and then I'd try
to get them started the following Oct.-Nov. with the rest of the
winter-growers we had. Some would do well, others struggled, some
couldn't make it. Ixias and Sparaxis did OK, Gladioules spp. less well.
With Lachenalias, I often had better plants at year 3 from seed than I
did trying to get bulbs imported from the southern hemisphere "over the
equator". Good luck.
Scott Canning
Wave Hill
Zone 6 with a cool greenhouse in the Bronx

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Today's Topics:

   1. Cryptostephanus Q? (James Waddick)
   2. Re: Crinum & Fritillaria (James Waddick)
   3. BX 192  dormant or ??? (James Waddick)
   4. Dell's listed seed donations (info@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org)
   5. Re: BX 192  dormant or ??? (Alberto Castillo)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:04:40 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [pbs] Cryptostephanus Q?
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Dear Friends,
	I had a question from a person in Germany who responded to 
comments on this web site. I suggested he join the group, but is 
thinking about it.

	He asks	" Is Cryptostephanus densiflorus in cultivation?".

	As you surely know there are three species in this genus. The 
commonest is Cryptostephanus vansonii and it looks like a miniature 
Clivia miniata with white (or pink) flowers.

	Far less common is Cryptostephanus haemanthoides, a very 
different looking bulbous plants of semi-desert locations.  A very 
few nurseries offer bulbs.

	The third and rarest species is Cryptostephanus densiflorus 
endemic to a small area of Angola. Harold Koopowitz in his book on 
Clivia suggests it is not in cultivation. Angola has enough social 
turmoil that it is not open to much botanizing.

	Can anyone provide an update on this species?		Thanks
Jim W.

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Dr. James W. Waddick
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Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:06:03 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum & Fritillaria
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Dear Iain,
	A small typo. The real url is:
http://www.fritillariaicones.com/

	Some real beauties there. Thanks		Jim W.


-- 
Dr. James W. Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
USA
Ph.    816-746-1949
Zone 5 Record low -23F
	Summer 100F +



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:11:44 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [pbs] BX 192  dormant or ???
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>18. Oxalis gracilis (W). T
>19. Oxalis purpurea 'Garnet' (W).
>20. Oxalis compressa, double form (W).


Dear Friends,
	These bulbs were offered in BX 192.

	Any suggestions on how to handle these dormant bulbs? They 
were donated by Alberto Castillo in the Southern Hemisphere and 
dormant during his summer. Now moved to the Northern Hemisphere, 
these winter growers are still 'dormant'. They should be in active 
growth here and now.


	Should they be planted now and watered or held dry for a few 
months to complete their dormancy, then planted and allowed to have a 
short growth period before a long summer dormancy?


	Curious. Any experiences moving winter growing bulbs from the 
southern hemisphere to the northern?

			Thanks		Jim W.

-- 
Dr. James W. Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
USA
Ph.    816-746-1949
Zone 5 Record low -23F
	Summer 100F +



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Could I point out a wee small error in provenance info, i.e. # 19 the
location in New Foundland is Cape Fear, [with good reason to the earlier
mariners] NOT Cape Spear.

I have this taxon here and it is a lovely and floriferous iris growing
to about 30-40 cms planted with me in virtually pure sand, the clump
originally of three plants vegetatively increases rather slowly = well
behaved, but seeds around quite prolifically = not well behaved if the
subject of weeding becomes a trial. This iris will take any level of
cold thrown at it, didn't blink at -26C.

Iain

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:00:57 +0000
From: Alberto Castillo <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] BX 192  dormant or ???
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Hi Jim: 
         These corms and bulbs I am sending have been dormant for a
month or so under very hot conditions. 
 
         My advice is 
pot up in very gritty soil
give them a first watering
take the pots to a cool place with very good light say at 10 C
wait, they should resprout during your winter and resume growth
according to your Hemisphere
they are likely to keep on growing well beyond your spring, do not force
them to go dormant. The longer the season of growth the bigger the bulbs
and corms obtained. 
 
Hope this is of help
 
Best
Alberto
 
 
 
 
 
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:11:44 -0600> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> From:
jwaddick@kc.rr.com> Subject: [pbs] BX 192 dormant or ???> > >18. Oxalis
gracilis (W). T> >19. Oxalis purpurea 'Garnet' (W).> >20. Oxalis
compressa, double form (W).> > > Dear Friends,> These bulbs were offered
in BX 192.> > Any suggestions on how to handle these dormant bulbs? They
> were donated by Alberto Castillo in the Southern Hemisphere and >
dormant during his summer. Now moved to the Northern Hemisphere, > these
winter growers are still 'dormant'. They should be in active > growth
here and now.> > > Should they be planted now and watered or held dry
for a few > months to complete their dormancy, then planted and allowed
to have a > short growth period before a long summer dormancy?> > >
Curious. Any experiences moving winter growing bulbs from the > southern
hemisphere to the northern?> > Thanks Jim W.> > -- > Dr. James W.
Waddick> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd.> Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711> USA> Ph.
8
 16-746-1949> Zone 5 Record low -23F> Summer 100F +> >
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