Roy wrote, " C. graecum is one of the types that grows up, not out. In this species, formation of a trunk is to be expected. My biggest difficulty in growing them is to find a pot that is deep enough to handle the tuber..." I grow most of my C. graecum now in plastic mesh pots plunged in sand, and so I can plant them deeply and they still have as much run for their annual roots as they want, extending them out through the mesh. I use soluble fertilizer with a hose hook-up, so the plunge sand has some nutrition for them, in addition to the fines naturally in it. I have just one C. graecum in the garden, in a sloping scree situation, and it's going into its third year in the open; it was pretty big when I planted it, though. Cyclamen mirabile has also returned in the open this year; I had some extras rescued from among the pots, where ants sow the seeds that I don't get to first. Regarding Cyclamen hederifolium and moisture, there's a path between two of my bulb frames that is regularly under an inch of water in winter. C. hederifolium has appeared there and has flowered for some years now. Yet I've also seen it in the wild growing as a chasmophyte (cliff-dweller) in crevices on a vertical rock face. In gardens in this area it often appears in lawns that aren't mown in winter. When people ask me what to plant in "impossible" places, such as the base of an old hedge, I recommend this species, with the caveat that it disappears in summer. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA