Don, The 1989 edition of Rix & Phillips has a photo of Ungernia sv.... Jim Waddick was kind enough to send me a few seeds some years back, and I had no germination with them. Has anyone vacationed in Iran (Persia) lately? Dell -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Don Hackenberry Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:35 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Ungernia Dear Jim, Jim, Diane, and All, Turns out I have the 1981 Rix & Phillips, no Ungernia. Did a Google search, Ungernia photos on the web aren't on the web yet, except for herbarium specimens. Most interesting site is http://naturetrek.co.uk/reports/… . Note that they grew at the top of the rocky slope above the river gorge. That's at the bottom of p 3. "So what is the secret of Norm Deno's front yard?" He has about eight inches of sand over soil. Now, there are some sites where you can do that, and some, such as windswept hilltops, where your sand will be blown away. But you may think of something, such as rocks to hold the sand down. Best, Don _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php