Jim, They are still here, but they have to go next summer. I just had a look at the patches with hundreds of bulbs of the sept 2005 sowings. Still in full slower Alberto Castillo: mostly true (with some interesting light bleu forms) Chorlotte Bishop: only 25% is pink Froyle Mill: 90% true Impossible to select out the rogues. So I will sell them off this summer at prices defying all competition (for naturalising) labeled with, as Kelly suggested, "open pollenated" offspring. Greetings Lauw de Jager http://www.bulbargence.com/ South of France (zone 8--9? Olivier) Coord. Geogr.(GPS): 43°42' 43" N 4° 32' 12" E > you raising them from > seed do not distribute them as 'Alberto Castillo'. Or is that horse already > out of the barn?