Graham Rice's perhaps in the header was, perhaps, wise... I have been interested to find that a clone of arum italicum is under circulation as Grimshaw's Form, and to clarify its story have corresponded with Ellen Hornig of Seneca Hills Perennials who has been selling it http://senecahillperennials.com/index.php/…. It seems that I sent it to her as 'dwarf form', which it isn't for her, although I think the original clump is relatively short in stature. Anyway, it has done well with her, increased in stature and she rates it better than 'White Winter'. The appellation Grimshaw's Form was never intended to be a cultivar name, and would be illegitimate in that format, as the word form may not appear in a cultivar name. Such temporary names are always dangerous, as they have a habit of sticking, and when some nomenclatural pedant comes along and says it is an illegit name everybody is displeased. My view is that if a plant is worth selling it is worth naming - both aspects needing long hard thought. I have therefore agreed with Ellen that it should be named 'Belldene', the name of my parents' house where the original grows, so please adjust labels accordingly. John Grimshaw Dr John M. Grimshaw Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Nr Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP Tel. 01242 870567 COLESBOURNE PARK OPEN DAYS 2007 Easter Monday 9 April, Arboretum Weekend 15-16 September Gates open 1pm, last entry 4 pm website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Rice" <garden@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: [pbs] Finally, perhaps, on arums > I've just been out to look at the foliage of the various forms of A. > italicum to see how they've stood up to the rigours of the winter and > "spring" - so far, the one in the best condition is: Grimshaw's form! > > Graham Rice > Milford, PA > > --