I've never seen a form of Crocus kotschyanus which is as large as a big C. speciosus, so Roger has something I hope he will be able to keep, propagate and eventually spread around. I have noticed however that the size of the bloom of Crocus kotschyanus increases over the several days the bloom is functioning. At first they are smallish and very pale. After the third day, if they have not been damaged by rain or other factors, the color is much better and the size is double that of a newly opened bloom. Crocus kotschyanus as I know it is a lot like some cheeses: they're both at their best the moment before they're ready to be tossed. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 where the various winter-growing Arum are full of leaves. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/Bulletins/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/