In a message dated 10/16/2005 3:05:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bklehm@comcast.net writes: >but would love to get further input< I do not know if this applies in this case, but to move large numbers of plants interstate with a commercial truck (including rentals) over 11000 lbs Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) means you stop for weigh stations and truck inspections and agricultural inspections. Check the laws regarding interstate plant movement applicable to your move at: http://www.nationalplantboard.org/ Washington is regulated, good luck with the California bureaucracy. I have found Connecticut easy to deal with, so far. As for the aphids and brown scale and mealybugs, it is now, unfortunately, serious chemical warfare time. I have been assiduously (really- every day for two weeks now) trying to find the resident frog to remove from the greenhouse. Mark Mazer Gaylordsville, CT Colchicum, Crocus, Gladiolus, Cyclamen, Nerine, Lachenalia flowering now, our river roars with recent rains.