I think Ron is right. I used to have Scadoxus multiflorus multiflorus, as well as S. m. katherinae. The S. multiflorus multiflorus go completely dormant/deciduous in late summer or autumn. The S. m. katherinae hang on to their leaves for a much longer time, gradually going dormant. For me, the multiflorus multiflorus did not bloom; I grew it in full sun. My katherinae do not all bloom, only a couple of them, and they are very slow growing here. The katherinae are listed as shade or partial shade plants, as is S. puniceus. I also grow my S. membranaceus in partial shade. Jim Shields in central Indiana (USA) At 07:56 PM 11/22/2005 +1000, Ron wrote: >I would like to have my two cents worth here if you don't mind as I think >Jim and Mary Sue are talking about two different ssp of S. multiflorus. I >have both and will hopefully have some shots of ssp multiflorus ie the one >that Jim is cultivating and loves full sun and flowers in late Spring for >me, as my bed of them is just hotting up now. >........ Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA