In a message dated 6/8/05 6:48:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, janemcgary@earthlink.net writes: > Also, they seem to have an aversion to LILIES WITH RED STEMS, a > characteristic > that I'll look for the next time I order lilies. > Jane ~ I grow a number of martagon hybrid lilies and many of them have dark stems -- reddish brown-red -- I guess one could call the coloring. Some are so dark that black is not out of the question! One of the first years I grew them, the deer discovered them in late summer and virtually ate them to the ground -- the stems must have tasted particularly good! Since then, the patch has been fenced and no problem. Aside from something like saddle of venison, fencing is the only permanent solution to the problem for the average gardener. Have you had any experience with the various sprays to deter browsing by deer? Dave Karnstedt