On 24 Sep 04 at 9:26, zonneveld wrote: > I am a bit late but if you think you have problems with colours...... > As a non-native speaker I wrestled ( and still do ) with red. I draw your attention to Gertrude Jekill's "Colour Schemes in the Flower Garden" for some helpful guidance. It's a very old book now and the original edition is scarce and expensive, but I believe it has been reprinted fairly recently. Jekyll did some very sophisticated gardens, color-wise. The famous red border at Hidcote is one. One of her methods was to grade the colors so that the warmer, more intense colors were closest to the spectator (at one end of a long border), gradually shading off into cooler, less intense ones down the length of the border. This mimics the effect of atmosphere on distant color and would make the border appear longer than it actually was -- a trump de l'oile iow. Find that book and red it. It will surely spur your imagination. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island