Fw: [pbs] Alstroemeria key

Jamie Jamievande@freenet.de
Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:37:07 PDT
Jane,

the post bounced back from PBS, so I'm trying again,
J.
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From: "Jamie" <Jamievande@freenet.de>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Alstroemeria key


> Jane,
>
> I know STIELTELLER only from the description of a blossom, where it refers
> to an open-formed, flat blossom, much like a Tulipa or Calochortus opened
> fully. A plate-formed blossom on a stem top!  I think the term is a bit
> archaic, as I've only seen it used once or twice as a generic.
>
> As to ROT, it is generic.  In German, the colour descriptions are a bit
> different; ROSA is pale pink, PINK is deep pink (in the purple range).
Many
> colours that are perceived as red are quite warm.  I think that BLASSROT
> would be a warm, medium pink to most, while HELLROT would be like cadmium
> pale, in artists colours, sort of scarlet, like a Pelargonium.  DUNKELROT
> would be like a very ripe tomato, while KIRSCHROT would be a deep, cold,
> crimson.
>
> Hope this helps a bit,
>
> Jamie V.
> Cologne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jane McGary" <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:52 AM
> Subject: [pbs] Alstroemeria key
>
>
> > I'm translating the key in Bayer's "The Genus Alstroemeria in Chile," a
> > copy of which Roy Sachs kindly lent me. I'll be glad to share the result
> > when it's done. I hope some member of this forum who knows both German
and
> > plants, the former at least better than I do, can help me with a couple
of
> > questions.
> >
> > 1. What does the word "Stielteller" mean? It is used in a compound
> > describing the shape of a flower. I know "Stiel" and "Teller," but not
the
> > compound.
> >
> > 2. Is the word "rot" 'red' used in German for a particular type of red,
at
> > least in relation to flowers? No alstroemerias are spectrum red, but
there
> > are many orange-reds and purple-reds. Bayer uses the compounds "hellrot"
> > 'light red' and "blassrot" 'pale red'. Can you suggest familiar flowers
> > that would be described by these terms?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Jane McGary
> >
> >
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