Dear all, but esp John G, Ellen and Paul; Thanks for the responses. I know it is fool hardy to even try Moraea (Please note I corrected the spelling) polystachya outdoors here. Surprised it does return even if it hasn't had a single decent bloom. I used to grow it in a cool greenhouse and it is a very pretty species. I find M. huttonii less attractive to my tastes, so have less interest in hardiness, but M alticola is a handsome looking species indeed and possibly even hardier. Anyone have bulbs or seed to share with the BX ? Of course these are all feeble attempts to grow in a climate ultimately not suited, but stranger things seem to happen and hardiness turns up where least expected. I guess I am willing to risk killing a choice plant now and then out of curiosity. Incidentally Crocus speciosum and some white flowered Crocus (have to check the label) are in bloom along with a last Cyc. hederifolium. Grape hyacinths are showing foliage already and a couple light frost all indicate fall is turning. Lots to get ready for winter, plants to protect, cold frame and finally plant out in the garden. A busy season for northern gardeners getting ready for the big chill-6 months of drear. best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick Near KCI Airport Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +