On 22 Jun 04 at 22:25, johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > I see that McRae says that [Lilium humboldtii] is (of the West > Coast dryland spp) 'probably the least fastidious and easiest to > manage' but notes that it wants to be very dry through late summer > and autumn. Any comments on this? One comment: don't confuse "summer dry" with "summer warmth". In other words, if you have L. humboldtii in a pot, don't necessarily think it will do better baked in full sun like a species tulip. If potted, I suspect it would do better dried off in shade or semi-shade than in sun. The Pacific Northwest has a reputation as a wet place, but many parts of it west of the Cascade Mountains have long summer dry spells. Yet these areas are generally fairly cool in summer. It's on the east side of the Cascades that one gets semi-desert conditions with intense heat in summer. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island