Thanks, Arnold. I had read this morning (in a work published in 1959) that the diet of giant pandas includes crocus. I doubted that the ranges overlapped, but you've provided the "proof". I grew Crocus alatavicus years ago - a big white C. korolkowii, and very nice, too. If I ever digitize my slide collection, I'll post a photo. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@starpower.net