Dear All, Last week we were hiking with the digital camera along and got some nice shots of the Veratrum fimbriatum leaves so I can illustrate my point about how pretty in the spring they are (and large). It's the cucumber beetle here that takes little bites out of the leaves, but they usually hatch out latter so the leaves are still looking pristine. Now why would you call this species unattractive? Jane said a lot of them are not prized because they have green flowers. But the flowers in this species are white and fringed and very striking. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers