Dear All, With reference to the American book I mentioned in my mail about Mystery Watsonia. Garden Bulbs in Colour by McFarland, Hatton and Foley, 1948. Does anyone know where I can find either information about or plants of the following older varieties of Kniphofia ? They may be US hybrids, or they may be early European, at the moment I don't know. Kniphofia 'Golden Thoughts' Kniphofia 'Sulphur Spire' Kniphofia 'Orange Glow' Kniphofia 'Salmon Beauty' Kniphofia 'Tower of Gold' Kniphofia 'Flaming Torch' Kniphofia 'Autumn Tints' I'm asking because I am presently collecting Kniphofia with a view to applying for national collection status in a couple of years time. There are many species in this genus but this genus has gone through a similar horticultural development as Crocosmia, and has similar 'historical' problems as I found with Crocosmia many years ago. My research with Kniphofia will mainly concentrate on the horticultural development that has taken place and with a view to finding, identifying and conserving older hybrids, and preserving a collection of what is presently grown in commerce. I have about 160 plants in the collection so far, but I feel that this number could easily double with a little help. With reference to National Collection status; applications have just been submitted for bulb collections of the following genera. Amaryllis (including A. belladonna, x Amarygria, x Amarine and x Amarcrinum) Eucomis with Galtonia Freesia (Anomatheca Group) I'll let you all know if I'm successful in my applications.. Best Wishes and Many Thanks, Dave (Plymouth, UK) Websites: http://www.theafricangarden.com/ http://www.crocosmiaheritage.com/ Address: David Fenwick NCCPG National Collection of Crocosmia with Chasmanthe and Tulbaghia The African Garden 96 Wasdale Gardens Estover Plymouth Devon England PL6 8TW --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com/). Version: 6.0.484 / Virus Database: 282 - Release Date: 27/05/03