The sun hits this bed now at around noon and it is sunny (when we have sun on the coast) all the rest of the day until sunset there. If my staking is correct, it looks like this is N. Matador, which I would never be without due to it's particular fragrance. I had them in a different bed last year that got even less sun and Matador's leaves didn't do this last year. The bed they are now in was newly re-dug and amended prior to planting. Maybe too much rich soil? I'd still appreciate specific recommendations. Thanks. Cathy Craig President PBS Maritime zone 9b > Most of mine have thrifty leaves. How much sun are yours getting? > > Ken