Dear All, Lawrence and I are working on getting the pbs wiki going so we won't have to use his so I haven't had a lot of time to help all of you who have been struggling to figure out how to use Lawrence's wiki. There is a bit of a learning curve for me the non techie and it is very time consuming. I appreciate your efforts in trying this out and I appreciate the others who have jumped in to help like Sheila and John. I am trying to create clear instructions for everyone that will help you. The beauty of a wiki is that everyone can use it and help make it better. The disadvantage of a wiki is that anyone can make changes. My GettingStarted page which I created to give you all tips to tell you how to put your information and picture location on our page so it will be easy for everyone to read keeps getting relocated. I have several times put it on our page and this morning it was gone again so I put it back. I suggest that everyone who plans to upload images or provide information for our wiki go to this page and print out the instructions. They are much clearer than the instructions for editing that appear on the very bottom when you edit and which I can't change. After you have printed out the instructions then go to the bottom of the page and push edit. You will then see how it looks when you are working on it and before it is saved and I have examples to illustrate every point. Please don't edit the GettingStarted page for now although you can send me ideas for improving it. If you want to know how to create a wikipage to put in pictures for a genus or how to italicize a botanical name or how to make sure the wikilink is on its own line the information is here. GettingStarted will be on our page so you can refer to it unless someone moves it again and if they do please someone put it back. http://ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/… If you just want to practice your editing skills you can use the SandBox. Type whatever you want and save it and see how it looks. http://ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/… Once we get our Pacific Bulb Society web page up and operational all this information can go there and remain secure. In the meantime I will make a note of this archive number so I can refer everyone to this information so I won't be repeating it over and over. Procedure for images for this list: 1. First you need to upload the message. To do this go to: http://ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/… The Browse key will allow you to find where on your computer you have stored the image file. 2. Be sure you have named your file something short that tells what it is and do not put spaces in the title. Either string the words together or use underlines or dashes. Eg. Worsleya-rayneri.jpg, Worsleya_rayneri.jpg or Worsleyarayneri.jpg. Otherwise it may not wrap well. You will have an opportunity to give us the complete name of what you are sending in your post and also when you describe your image on the wiki page. 3. Find the file and push upload. After the file has been transferred from your computer to the server you will be given the url location. Make a note of this or copy it and paste it directly in your email so you won't lose it. 4. Identify in the subject of your post what the image will be so that everyone will know what it is. Example: Crocus image 5. Tell us about your image in the post and then include the url if you have not so already. 6. Please add this url to our wikipage listed below by editing the page (go to the bottom and push edit) and pasting the url where the plant would go in alphabetical order. Above the url write identifying information about your picture in a couple of sentences. (Full name of plant, country of origin, garden grown or in the wild, photographer, perhaps suitability for which garden zone) and then type in three % signs before your wikilink (your url that you have pasted.) When you edit you can see how everyone else has done it and copy their style or refer to GettingStarted for more information. Exactly what you put here we haven't decided for sure. We don't want it to be too long, but I think knowing which country it comes from would be information I'd want to know and also some idea of who might be able to grow it would be really helpful. If you don't know all this information include what you do know. You can create a wikipage just for yourself as the photographer if you want to and choose what information you are willing to go on the web. To do this follow the instructions in GettingStarted. Or you can just give your name but we do want to know whose picture it is. 7. Preview you changes to make sure it looks like you intended and save your changes. You can save and then edit it if it needs fixing. To view images posted to the PBS wiki site or to put the images in that you have already posted to this group go to: http://ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/… If you did not make a note of your url when you uploaded it you may be able to find it in your email if you sent it to us or in the archives if you didn't keep that email. You also can find it by going to the list of files: http://ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/… Look through the list of files until you find your file. Click on it to be sure and then copy the url from your Browser location window and paste it in our page as directed above. Don't be put off by all these instructions. I tried to make them as complete as I could so I covered all the possibilities. Once you do this a couple of times you find it isn't that difficult. I hope this will answer all the questions. Perhaps a few of you who have figured this out (hint Sheila) would be willing to help those people who are stuck until I have more time. Mary Sue